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Official Week 3: Panthers vs. Falcons Gameday Thread


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26 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am not sure they are worse. I think NFL teams are increasingly more desperate.

This.  For bad teams, every year the draft presents the sexy possibility of finding the next great franchise QB and turning your fortunes around completely.  And then ego also gets involved, such as with Bryce.  Teams trade up to get in front of other teams to take their guy and show how they outsmarted all the other teams and got THE premiere guy at the premiere position.  And every year, bad teams have gotten increasingly desperate to make someone into that guy for them, even if that player isn’t ready.

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1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

the reason bryce dead enders will keep hanging on....until he's finally cut and they can latch on to whatever the next qb is, good or bad

I guess you could view it that way.  To me it’s just more reason to draft a guy every year or two and throw them to the dogs.

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1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I guess you could view it that way.  To me it’s just more reason to draft a guy every year or two and throw them to the dogs.

yeah recruiting another mid but top of the class QB will just further this poo era of the panthers

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3 hours ago, fanpanther said:

i feel exactly the same it was a hard game to watch.  wasnt that the panthers offense defense or special teams got on track it was just penix played so terrible that the falcons were begging to loose

Might be me, but when their kicker missed the first field goal I thought that was a momentum shifter. When he missed the 2nd field goal I know it was. The Atlanta coaching staff in no way had them ready to play today. I feel like they might have been reading about how terrible the Panthers were and thought they could mail this one in. When Entienne fumbled the punt return and the Falcons could not capitalize it was a difference maker. 

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2 hours ago, Castavar said:

IDK man. JJ Mccarthy, Bryce, Pennix, Cam Ward, Anthony Richardson, Will Levis, Drake Maye, Pickett, Malik Willis, Desmond Ridder, Bo Nix............all of these are notable QBs drafted in the last 3 years that just look terrible. 

Some of those guys are not even 1st rounders. That's a different scale.

If you go back 20-30 years, the 1st round is absolutely littered with bust QB's. I suspect if you break the numbers down, they won't dramatically differ.

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23 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Some of those guys are not even 1st rounders. That's a different scale.

If you go back 20-30 years, the 1st round is absolutely littered with bust QB's. I suspect if you break the numbers down, they won't dramatically differ.

That’s what makes me fuging hate Gettleman.  Generational talent in Cam, and that’s an understatement, and he had him protected with converted defensive linemen, NAIA standouts, career journeymen who spent most of their time on practice squads, and then traded away his greatest weapon, gave him guys who run slower than most fan’s walk and told him to figure it out.  What a fuging waste.

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3 hours ago, Joe Bear said:

What a win! Shoutout to the defense, offense, special teams, coaching, fans, stadium crew, catering crew, security, team store, hell, everybody! 

It’s gonna be so nice to go poo-talk Falcons fans at work tomorrow. Not just a win but a SHUTOUT win!

Got that right!!

There’s only 1 person in my office who pays attention to the falcons (there’s about 10 ride or die UGA fans) and I am going to needle her a good bit. 

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