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So in order for a win to count, Bryce has to throw for 250+ yards and 3 TDs with over 10 YPA?  I mean, maybe I'm just happy for a win, and I'm going to enjoy it while it lasts.

Bryce wasn't great, but he did make some tough throws with rushers in his face.  He missed some throws.  He also had a lot of throws to Tmac where there was really good coverage.

Now there's a LONG season to go.  We're not making draft needs in week 3.    At the end of the day, the job is up to Bryce.  If he produces, wins and plays well; keep him.  If not, ship him off.

Here's one thing I will say about Bryce: despite his size, the game doesn't look to big for him.  Sure, he doesn't have a laser cannon of an arm, but this Bryce is a lot better than the Bryce who started last year.  I'm not seeing the deer in headlights when I watch the game.  How many more physically gifted QBs are we watching week in and week out panic, make poor decisions and look lost?  

So that's one SMALL advantage I'll give Bryce. But he has to win.  He has to lead the team.  He's got to make plays.  We'll see what happens.

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The way it looks, the path to winning games is ball control, solid defense, and limited bryce to game managing no mistakes. Asking him to do too much has just resulted in disaster. You can win some games this way but far as long term QB it's a no. Better off looking somewhere else when the time comes.  The offense is limited and still has trouble scoring points.

 

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1 hour ago, Waldo said:

I watch 1 series each and turned it off. Im done watching flacid NFL games. The other game on was Pittsburgh vs NE and that last about the same for me. This crap is getting completely unwatchable 

I’m confused, our first drive was a touchdown.

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12 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

My fear is Bryce plays just well enough to keep QB out of the equation in the first round.  With so many underclassmen, it's difficult to predict how deep this QB class will be.  There's definitely talent.  It won't be as stacked as 2024 (which I advocated we wait for...sigh) but it sure as heck won't be 2025 or worse, 2022.

I am not too worried about the positioning for draft pick this far out. It doesn't appear to be a very strong QB class overall so far. Certainly less so than was predicted a few months ago.

Bryce will answer the questions of his future here this season, I suspect. We will have clarity by Game 18. 

The question will be, whether the Panthers make the right choice with the information.

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2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

The way it looks, the path to winning games is ball control, solid defense, and limited bryce to game managing no mistakes. Asking him to do too much has just resulted in disaster. You can win some games this way but far as long term QB it's a no. Better off looking somewhere else when the time comes.  The offense is limited and still has trouble scoring points.

 

B-I-N-G-O!  The entire team need to be near flawless to enable Bryce to play out front and with a full playbook at his disposal, leaning heavily on a grinding rushing attack.  This is NOT a sustainable model.  It's good enough for a handful of wins a season.  After nearly a decade of futility, being slightly better than the bottom dwellers of the league is not cutting it for me.  Perpetually selecting 6-10 in the draft doesn't give me tons of optimism.

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7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am not too worried about the positioning for draft pick this far out. It doesn't appear to be a very strong QB class overall so far. Certainly less so than was predicted a few months ago.

Bryce will answer the questions of his future here this season, I suspect. We will have clarity by Game 18. 

The question will be, whether the Panthers make the right choice with the information.

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1 hour ago, Waldo said:

I watch 1 series each and turned it off. Im done watching flacid NFL games. The other game on was Pittsburgh vs NE and that last about the same for me. This crap is getting completely unwatchable 

You should join their forum.

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1 hour ago, Waldo said:

I watch 1 series each and turned it off. Im done watching flacid NFL games. The other game on was Pittsburgh vs NE and that last about the same for me. This crap is getting completely unwatchable 

Missed a great game. Watching surly pissed off Falcon fans parade out of the stadium after talking so much crap coming in was delightful. What a wonderful beat down. Who knows how things go down the road but yesterday was one for the ages.

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1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Missed a great game. Watching surly pissed off Falcon fans parade out of the stadium after talking so much crap coming in was delightful. What a wonderful beat down. Who knows how things go down the road but yesterday was one for the ages.

we as fans needed that

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32 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

The way it looks, the path to winning games is ball control, solid defense, and limited bryce to game managing no mistakes. Asking him to do too much has just resulted in disaster. You can win some games this way but far as long term QB it's a no. Better off looking somewhere else when the time comes.  The offense is limited and still has trouble scoring points.

 

Delhomme did the same thing. There have been many game managers who take their team to the playoffs. Some have even won a superbowl.

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    • Waldo
      Brilliant!

      By Waldo · Posted

      Yeah it was like watching two bottom teams slap fight and play ugly small ball in the preseason to me. hard pass on that personally. 
    • cranky
      Al Wallace speaks the truth

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      I'm looking for the video but I found this from SI (from 3 days ago) in the meantime. "If you remove the turnovers, which is a pointless exercise since they happened, Bryce Young has been quietly very good. Sometimes, you can live with the turnovers, but the explosive plays to offset them haven't been there, and the turnovers have directly led to points and losses. But Jake Delhomme thinks that's the one area that needs to be cleaned up. Otherwise, Young has been strong. "We saw Bryce end the year well. I saw him play decent the first few weeks (this season). It’s just the turnovers, that’s something that’s killed him," he said via The Athletic's Joe Person."
    • shaqattaq
      Brilliant!

      By shaqattaq · Posted

      IMO, Bryce is pretty damned good as long as he's not under pressure, which he wasn't yesterday. If the opponent is able to pressure him, well...
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