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Week 3 PFF Grades


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28 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

Hunter is still getting back in NFL shape.  takes a while after what he went through.

Hunter would be the talk of the NFL right now if the QB would have simply put the ball in target the past 3 weeks when he was open.   CPOY leading candidate 

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31 minutes ago, CRA said:

Hunter would be the talk of the NFL right now if the QB would have simply put the ball in target the past 3 weeks when he was open.   CPOY leading candidate 

I think so too. He has done this before I don’t think it is him. 

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7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, Bryce seems to really struggle to put the ball on Renfrow down the field.

He struggles to put the ball on everyone down the field. We’re gonna live or die with the 5 -10 yard pass. 

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10 hours ago, ncbob said:

He struggles to put the ball on everyone down the field. We’re gonna live or die with the 5 -10 yard pass. 

To be clear, I don't disagree. It's just exasperated when it's Renfrow due to his lack of height, reach, and leaping ability. Bryce usually misses high deep and that's an issue when you're Renfrow. Less of an issue if you're T-Mac.

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18 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Tremayne has earned the right to play over XL, that's for sure. Granted the bar to clear for that is on the floor but still. Honestly, when Coker returns I want to see T-Mac, Tremayne, and Coker getting heavy dose of snaps. The Bryce/Renfrow connection is just not planning out and XL has produced virtually nothing.

The Bryce-anyone connection isn’t panning out. The fact we don’t have a single burner at receiver is going to cause problems against better teams. Trade for Tryeek

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1 hour ago, Icege said:

That one surprised me. Definitely going to keep an eye on him when I get to rewatch this week.

As usual for the last couple weeks I do care more about your thoughts from the all 22 on the defense.  Seeing some of our younger guys making plays this week on D was great.

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