Thielen update

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 hour ago, L-TownCat said:

The same way every convo shifted to Cam’s towel.  He’s the QB.  All the praise or all the blame.  Celebrated or hated.  No inbetweens.

Cam was one of those personalities you either loved or hated. And Roger Goodell hated Cam and wasnt going to ever let that smile be the face of the NFL.

[CPcavedweller]

11 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Cam was one of those personalities you either loved or hated. And Roger Goodell hated Cam and wasnt going to ever let that smile be the face of the NFL.

I know plenty of people who were okay with Cam either way. 

[shaqattaq]

On 9/26/2025 at 8:52 AM, AceBoogie said:

Team game. 
 

QB Bryce Young vs #Texans QB C.J. Stroud's last 10 full games played:

Pass attempts: Stroud 318, Young 319

Total yards: Stroud 2,274, Young 2,335

Total touchdowns: Stroud 9, Young 20

Interceptions: Stroud 8, Young 6

Sacks: Stroud 36, Young 22

Adjusted net yards per attempt: Stroud 4.62, Young

5.84

 

But keep hating on your own QB. Dork. 

We should have Stuck with Darnold another year and not traded so much for a QB in 2023. 

[Waldo]

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

I know plenty of people who were okay with Cam either way. 

He was saying Roger Goodhell wasn't one of them. Nore were a bunch of other owners is my guess.

It's what made winning that much sweeter. The haters had to choke on it.

[LinvilleGorge]

13 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Cam was one of those personalities you either loved or hated. And Roger Goodell hated Cam and wasnt going to ever let that smile be the face of the NFL.

You got a be living in a cave somewhere to poo this post.

Ohhhhh...

LOL 

[strato]

6 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

We should have Stuck with Darnold another year and not traded so much for a QB in 2023. 

They are not equal. But I didn’t believe either was worth that ridiculously desperate trade up. 
I agreed with you then and still believe that now.
We got horrible value for those assets. 
 

Half the people here trashed the 2023 offense while overlooking that a coach they don’t think much of went 6-6 with them to finish 2022. You could have built on that.
 

Think about the picks lost and DJ too, and the additional investment in 2024 and the 1st this year and imagine all that still being done and having Darnold running it. 
Then the 9th in 2023, the other 1st and two 2nds, you could have put them into the defense and still have had the massive offensive investment. Granted you would have altered the cap money you had for the guards by paying Darnold. 

And tell me we wouldn’t have been so far ahead of where we are now….

[strato]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You got a be living in a cave somewhere to poo this post.

Ohhhhh...

LOL 

I picked up too turdpiles from the same poster for saying basically I liked both Jake and Cam. 
I tried to find where I had been negative and couldn’t see it. It was basically my most ‘fan’ posting in months, I thought. Innocuous approval of the guys behind our two best years. Could not make sense of it other to think that it was not okay with someone that I like both QBs. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, strato said:

I picked up too turdpiles from the same poster for saying basically I liked both Jake and Cam. 
I tried to find where I had been negative and couldn’t see it. It was basically my most ‘fan’ posting in months, I thought. Innocuous approval of the guys behind our two best years. Could not make sense of it other to think that it was not okay with someone that I like both QBs. 

I have no idea how any Panthers fans could not love Jake and Cam. It's just baffling 

[electro's horse]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have no idea how any Panthers fans could not love Jake and Cam. It's just baffling 

/like Elrond talking about the battle of mt doom 

“I was there LinvilleGorge. I was there 17 years ago when the panthers running game had the ring. I was there the day the strength of delhomme failed.”

[SmokinwithWilly]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have no idea how any Panthers fans could not love Jake and Cam. It's just baffling 

Cam had his moments for me like celebrating a 1st down when we were down big, but overall, dude was a big kid playing the game he loved. He made the game fun for fans and engaging. He was great for fans, and probably for bringing in new young fans, but not enough old fans with $$$ and instead of embracing change they stuck with Sid and his old balls. 

 

[CPcavedweller]

20 hours ago, shaqattaq said:

We should have Stuck with Darnold another year and not traded so much for a QB in 2023. 

We should have traded down, taken Torrance, taken Charbonnet and Mims. Then gone defense. Re-signed Foreman and Darnold. If we sucked again, then you get a shot at Daniels, Maye, Williams, or Nix. You get to keep DJ Moore and stack a core of talent. 

[LinvilleGorge]

One thing is blatantly obvious at this point. Going all in to swing a massive trade up to draft a QB prospect who checked zero NFL physical traits boxes was a huge mistake.

[strato]

33 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

We should have traded down, taken Torrance, taken Charbonnet and Mims. Then gone defense. Re-signed Foreman and Darnold. If we sucked again, then you get a shot at Daniels, Maye, Williams, or Nix. You get to keep DJ Moore and stack a core of talent. 

You could do almost the same moves offensively, and have the 2023 9.1, the 2.x, the 2024 1.x, the 2025 2.x, and DJ. Draft defense with those picks and you should be stout. 
 

Just think of having maybe not a SB team, but a shot at 10 -12 wins and the playoffs instead of the horrendous ball we have watched since 2023. 
 

And some realistic hope. 

Edited October 11, 2025 by strato

[tukafan21]

33 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

One thing is blatantly obvious at this point. Going all in to swing a massive trade up to draft a QB prospect who checked zero NFL physical traits boxes was a huge mistake.

I said this before that trade, but those trades in general just never work out, usually because if the team at #1 is wiling to trade the pick, it means the QB options that year just aren't that great to begin with.

That we then took Bryce just compounded the issue