With the 1st Pick in the 2026 Draft....

[strato]

We blew it by paying that price to move into it. I would picked CJ of the two every time but I don’t think I felt like he was worth that price either. 
I hate trading future 1sts I just hate it, so that was never going to be okay with me.  
You can’t judge from one game but Giants took Dart at 25 and he won his first start - against a 3-0 team. Yeah WC team 1pm game in NYC is a huge disadvantage but I doubt people expected that. 
Yeah to your point I would rather take someone that you can sit until you think they are ready. They can be found. 

[raleigh-panther]

The Panthers are exhausting 

[strato]

6 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

The Panthers are exhausting 

And in a bad way. 

[scratched]

28 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

Bo Nix led Denver  to a 10-7 playoff birth in his rookie season. He had 29 TD's/12 INTs/93.3 RTG. He was picked at #12.

Big Ben went at #11.

Deshaun Watson looked like a potential HoF QB before the sex scandal and dispute with Houston management derailed his career. He went at #12.

You don't have to pick in the top 5 to find a franchise guy. You just have to pick the RIGHT GUY and put him in a position to succeed.

We had the 1st pick in the draft and blew it.

 

 

I would like to add that Bo Nix and Big Ben went to very strong organizations, with veteran head coaches. That will always help. So, bringing a rookie QB to Charlotte with an unimpressive HC and very little proven talent is a recipe for disaster. 

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, strato said:

Brees wasn’t 6’4” otherwise he looks like a QB. Mayfield is about his size. 
Thise guys are the edge of the envelope, where I look at a guy and have questions. Size wise they are the Southern borderline. Don’t cross it. 
 

Bro you can keep Murray. I will be good if a Murray slips through the cracks because of my higher bar. Outlier and not really that good a pro. At all. I agree he has tools.  Fast elusive and a cannon. But I play the odds when it comes to this stuff. 
 

And Wilson was a third rounder and honestly I never thought he was that good. (Jump balls and a killer running attack and a killer D, he had success). Not so much since…(but he worked out great for a third round investment. That’s how you do it.Also, the context here is 1st round high pick that’s where I am at with it). 

I think you are missing the point. All these guys had elite attributes. Arm strength, accuracy, athleticism, etc.

Those were things Bryce didn't truly have. 

So, look AT THE BARE MINIMUM for that as a starting point.

[Panthers Fan 69]

Let’s be real. The panthers have only had one QB they drafted that worked out. Cam. Collin’s was a drunk that worked 5 years later with a couple teams. 
 

1 QB in 30 years. What makes everyone think whoever they draft is gonna work?  Canales is a beta male who shows zero back bone and leadership.  

[strato]

31 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think you are missing the point. All these guys had elite attributes. Arm strength, accuracy, athleticism, etc.

Those were things Bryce didn't truly have. 

So, look AT THE BARE MINIMUM for that as a starting point.

I guess I did miss that point. Or I wasn’t clear. 
What I was saying is I would exclude people that don’t fit within my prototypical box. Dismiss them just out of hand. I would rather screw up by passing on a unicorn than being stuck like we got stuck. The evaluation of those who do fit in the box should proceed as normal. 
 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, strato said:

I guess I did miss that point. Or I wasn’t clear. 
What I was saying is I would exclude people that don’t fit within my prototypical box. Dismiss them just out of hand. I would rather screw up by passing on a unicorn than being stuck like we got stuck. The evaluation of those who do fit in the box should proceed as normal. 
 

Nah, I can't just dismiss based on "needs to meet X measurables." I wouldn't want to do that per se. 

[strato]

8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Nah, I can't just dismiss based on "needs to meet X measurables." I wouldn't want to do that per se. 

Okay you can’t be in my front office lol.
 

That got us Bryce. Who would we have missed out on if we said minimum 6’ 200lb to make the cut? Murray? 
Like Parcels said, he better walk on water at that size. 

I mean I always thought Mike Glennon was just too tall lol. 

But out of full disclosure, footwork and arm should have excluded Bryce from serious high pick consideration at any size

Keep in mind I do not exclude them on day 2 or 3. 

 

[rebelrouser]

3 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

2. Garrett Nussmeier - slight slump but still a nice prospect

All you have to do is get any kind of rush on him and he looks very pedestrian.  He pads his stats against lesser competition too.  I am hoping his dad drafts him to the Saints so that we are not tempted.  

[Bear Hands]

2 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

All you have to do is get any kind of rush on him and he looks very pedestrian.  He pads his stats against lesser competition too.  I am hoping his dad drafts him to the Saints so that we are not tempted.  

I'm conflicted with him.  He's shown way more than Allar/Klubnik/other preseason hyped who've struggled, but he is trending down right now.  I still like the tools.  A bit Darnold-ish IMO.

Mateer & Mendoza may be the only ones who end up declaring with the high ceiling.

Sellers and Moore may stay another year.