Dave is sticking by Bryce

[OldhamA]

34 minutes ago, LegioX said:

Anytime Bryce throws anything over 10yards he either underthrows or underthrows. Only thing he can do is check downs. Good grief. Bench the dude!

That's because everything is an arm throw - his mechanics are awful. He never sets his feet.

I gave Newton grief for his poor mechanics, but at least he had natural talent. 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Bryce flat out stopped trying today and people are still defending his little ass. People, learn what the sunk cost fallacy is and move on. He's a bust.

[Wanderlai]

They going to Thelma and Louise it to the bitter end 

[bigdog_10_2002]

There’s no point in benching him. Just let him go out there and hopefully put some flashes out there in the far off hope someone may send a pick for him this offseason.  

[PadresPanthersFan]

5 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

I disagree with this but can see the reasoning when you had 3 total WRs and 2.5 OL starters out. Hopefully next week Coker and XL are back, Zavala is back, and we play both sides of the ball. 

You think record breaking terrible xl will help move the needle? I hope he gets traded.

Bryce is toast. I say try the preseason guy or hooker, play horn, see what they're actually capable of. Trade Bryce in the off season. 

Hell draft a couple qbs a la the browns. 

But I can't watch Bryce absolutely suck anymore. 2.25 years of this is enough. This goes against the 8th amendment at this point of no cruel and unusual punishment 

[OldhamA]

17 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's just unbelievable to me that there are fans who are still willingly deluding themselves like this.

The blind spot some people have for this guy is insane.

Mark Schlereth was making excuses for him all game "You don't know if you have your franchise QB with the WRs they're playing him with. They're hoping to get Coker back, but when you're waiting on an UDFA 2nd year player to get back you have problems". 

Ignoring the rest of our games, because judging by his knowledge of our players Mark hasn't watched them, every QB in the league would kill for T-Mac (he'd have had another 100+ yard game and a TD with a competent QB):

• He made a circus catch on that shitty sideline throw
• He had Gonzalez beat deep on the play where Bryce had a tantrum and smashed his helmet into the ground
• He prevented a pick 6 when Young threw high and behind him over the middle (wide open by the way)
• He was wide open for a hole shot that Young completely air mailed

Throughout NFL history if you've got a good OLine (it was very good before the injuries), a strong running game, functional WRs/TEs and a star WR you're expected to put up points and be competitive. 

Apparently the guy we traded three first round picks for still needs MORE for us to be able to accurately judge him. It's infuriating - I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone. 

[OldhamA]

2 minutes ago, bigdog_10_2002 said:

There’s no point in benching him. Just let him go out there and hopefully put some flashes out there in the far off hope someone may send a pick for him this offseason.  

Trying to be competitive seems a pretty decent point. 

You'd have to trade for someone though, Dalton is absolutely washed. 

[Gapanthersfan]

18 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

several busses.  Very short busses.

I really think the system and coaching are inferior as well.  Darnold sucked here.  Mayfield was here and sucked.  Players come here to die.  

I was asking us to sign Daniel Jones on the cheap--still early, but I think we have no eye for talent or what our system needs.

At QB in the NFL, you need an alpha.  We do not have an alpha.  You need an Alpha coach.  Not seeing it.

Alphas need not apply. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

The blind spot some people have for this guy is insane.

Mark Schlereth was making excuses for him all game "You don't know if you have your franchise QB with the WRs they're playing him with. They're hoping to get Coker back, but when you're waiting on an UDFA 2nd year player to get back you have problems". 

Ignoring the rest of our games, because judging by his knowledge of our players Mark hasn't watched them, every QB in the league would kill for T-Mac (he'd have had another 100+ yard game and a TD with a competent QB):

• He made a circus catch on that shitty sideline throw
• He had Gonzalez beat deep on the play where Bryce had a tantrum and smashed his helmet into the ground
• He prevented a pick 6 when Young threw high and behind him over the middle (wide open by the way)
• He was wide open for a hole shot that Young completely air mailed

Throughout NFL history if you've got a good OLine (it was very good before the injuries), a strong running game, functional WRs/TEs and a star WR you're expected to put up points and be competitive. 

Apparently the guy we traded three first round picks for still needs MORE for us to be able to accurately judge him. It's infuriating - I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone. 

Bryce could probably be serviceable with an entire slate of All-Pros around him and an offensive mind like Andy Reid running the show but you don't draft QBs #1 overall who have to be carried and you certainly don't trade a king's ransom for them because when you do that you're counting on that guy helping to carry you through some of the roster holes that move is inevitably going to create. That's what nine of these people acknowledge. Yeah, our roster isn't great but a big part of that is all the roster capital we had to give up to trade up to draft this guy.

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, bigdog_10_2002 said:

There’s no point in benching him. Just let him go out there and hopefully put some flashes out there in the far off hope someone may send a pick for him this offseason.  

You'd think otherwise if you were trying to keep your job. Now maybe Canales has assurance he's safe. I'd find that hard to believe but maybe. I don't know how he'll avoid losing the locker room though if he keeps trotting out this guy who completely hamstrings our offense.

[CPF4LIFE]

Im gonna get heat, but they could have used XL today. They had nobody to stretch the field. At the same time, bryce can't throw it deep so it didnt matter too much. 

[mav1234]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

The blind spot some people have for this guy is insane.

Mark Schlereth was making excuses for him all game "You don't know if you have your franchise QB with the WRs they're playing him with. They're hoping to get Coker back, but when you're waiting on an UDFA 2nd year player to get back you have problems". 

Ignoring the rest of our games, because judging by his knowledge of our players Mark hasn't watched them, every QB in the league would kill for T-Mac (he'd have had another 100+ yard game and a TD with a competent QB):

• He made a circus catch on that shitty sideline throw
• He had Gonzalez beat deep on the play where Bryce had a tantrum and smashed his helmet into the ground
• He prevented a pick 6 when Young threw high and behind him over the middle (wide open by the way)
• He was wide open for a hole shot that Young completely air mailed

Throughout NFL history if you've got a good OLine (it was very good before the injuries), a strong running game, functional WRs/TEs and a star WR you're expected to put up points and be competitive. 

Apparently the guy we traded three first round picks for still needs MORE for us to be able to accurately judge him. It's infuriating - I feel like I'm living in the Twilight Zone. 

10000000000% this.

Our roster this year is not as bad as our record and our offense isn't as talentless as our QB numbers suggest. 

[OldhamA]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Bryce could probably be serviceable with an entire slate of All-Pros around him and an offensive mind like Andy Reid running the show but you don't draft QBs #1 overall who have to be carried and you certainly don't trade a king's ransom for them because when you do that you're counting on that guy helping to carry you through some of the roster holes that move is inevitably going to create. That's what nine of these people acknowledge. Yeah, our roster isn't great but a big part of that is all the roster capital we had to give up to trade up to draft this guy.

The only modern day system I think he could function in is the one out in San Francisco - that's essentially Play Action off an incredibly strong running game, getting the ball to playmakers in space on short, easy passes.

Even then if you were the OC / HC / GM you'd still be thinking "man this kid is holding us back". 

[GoobyPls]

17 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

That absolutely is not the worst set of WR we've ever run out there. Far from it. 

T-Mac is really, really good (already). Renfrow is really good if you throw an accurate ball. 

TMac is a rookie and no Renfrow wouldn’t crack the majority of teams roster. Any team could of had him this offseason when we cut him