Any well functioning team benches Bryce

[45catfan]

6 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

They could sign a vet replacement level QB and keep building the roster.

Woof, that's a rough list. I know UNC homers will bang the drum for Trubisky and Howell.  The Colts ain't letting Indiana Jones leave.  Again, slim pickings.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2026/position/qb

I'd take a swing on Tray Lance in a competition scenario.  

Edited 22 hours ago by 45catfan

[electro's horse]

7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

When do we upgrade at QB, then? Or should we?  

 

6 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

They could sign a vet replacement level QB and keep building the roster.

ding

There's enough players on this offense that you could do something with just reliable QB play and like, one extra WR. 

The Panthers need a pass rusher and a ILB. 

We're not trying to win a superbowl next season; we are trying to be competitive in every game. That means ditching bryce for literally anything, getting to the QB, stopping the run. 

They need to play Fox Ball. 

[CarolinaLivin]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Woof, that's a rough list. I know UNC homers will bang the drum for Trubisky and Howell.  The Colts ain't letting Indiana Jones leave.  Again, slim pickings.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2026/position/qb

I'd take a swing on Tray Lance in a competition scenario.  

 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

 

ding

There's enough players on this offense that you could do something with just reliable QB play and like, one extra WR. 

The Panthers need a pass rusher and a ILB. 

We're not trying to win a superbowl next season; we are trying to be competitive in every game. That means ditching bryce for literally anything, getting to the QB, stopping the run. 

They need to play Fox Ball. 

brother next season we have to make the playoffs, period full stop.  

 

I wholeheartedly disagree with your take about the qb situation.  We know bryce aint it, send him packing in the off season, you have to draft a guy to develop and then sign some poo vet as a place holder.  Then hope and pray the talent on the team can have you competing for the south. 

[Panthering]

2 hours ago, Mage said:

As someone who was at the game -

Bryce Young doesn't have the arm to make high-level throws.  He just doesn't.  It isn't worth having a discussion of if he will ever live up to what we gave up for him - he won't.  And any comparisons to Baker and Darnold are reaching; their issues were more mental than anything else.  They always had the physical talent.  

There was a throw on 3rd down where Bryce rolled out and had a guy open on the sidelines, but he literally couldn't get the ball there.  It was jarring to see live.  

I think Bryce will be a very good back-up in this league.  Not for us because we aren't good, but for a functional NFL franchise?  He's going to hang around this league for a long time, especially because by all accounts he's a good guy.  But he will never be a consistent top 15/20 QB.  He lacks the talent.

He does that every game, space gets tight in the pocket, or he's rolling out and being chased so he can't generate momentum with his body as easily (two situations that happen aplenty in the NFL) and the ball dies like a dead duck and skips 5 yards in front of the receiver who is 10-15 yards away. It's incredibly embarrassing to think of how much we gave up for that when it's such a common NFL play. One thing to always ask yourself about a QB pre-draft, if the interior line is losing leverage and you cannot step into your throw, can you still stand tall and deliver a strike to an out route 10 yards away? Yes or No? Bryce cannot due to his physical limitations. Obviously other things to consider at QB but that's a big one for me.

I cannot imagine how bizarre it is to watch in person, I've seen multiple people on social media talk about how underwhelming he looks in person. If that's what it took for Tepper to forever remove himself and his wife out of football decisions then maybe that'll be alright long term, but my god man, you totally jacked this franchise up with that trade.

Thank goodness Morgans draft picks are stepping up this year, because it could easily be worse than it is. 

[electro's horse]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

brother next season we have to make the playoffs, period full stop.  

 

I wholeheartedly disagree with your take about the qb situation.  We know bryce aint it, send him packing in the off season, you have to draft a guy to develop and then sign some poo vet as a place holder.  Then hope and pray the talent on the team can have you competing for the south. 

make the playoffs/be competitive in every game, same difference. 

I don't understand this infatuation with drafting a guy. Two of the best QBs in the league right now are Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, on their 5th and 4th teams respectively. One of the main reasons Canales was hired was his work with a 10th year qb in Seattle. Daniel Jones is looking like he's going to be a playoff QB. 

Why reach on a prospect when you can get reasonable production from elsewhere and add higher floor players at areas of need

[CarolinaLivin]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

brother next season we have to make the playoffs, period full stop.  

 

I wholeheartedly disagree with your take about the qb situation.  We know bryce aint it, send him packing in the off season, you have to draft a guy to develop and then sign some poo vet as a place holder.  Then hope and pray the talent on the team can have you competing for the south. 

I dont know about playoff talk haha

But based on our staff really harping on being a developmental staff, i think we do draft one regardless of if its 1st round or later. I don’t think we will just bring in a backup or fringe starter level at best vet QB and say we’re good. But it all depends on how they feel about bryce after this year. We know how we feel. But our organization does some funny things sometimes haha

[pantherclaw]

9 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

If he doesn’t turn the ball over, he doesn’t need to make those throws. 

A QB doesn't need to make good throws? 

 

Wtf ever. 

Edited 14 hours ago by pantherclaw

[ProcessBlue2]

5 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

A QB doesn't need to make good throws? 

 

Wtf ever. 

If he doesn’t poo his pants and drop the ball like a terrified worm or throw a horrible ball across the middle a few plays later that is intercepted. He doesn’t have to make those “clutch” throws at the end of the game. 
 

Should have beat the dolphins by 2 TDs but instead the whole team was helping him clean his own mess up. He’s the reason we lost to Arizona. Everyone praised his 2nd half but failed to realize all of his turnovers that got us behind in the first place.

So yeah, if he had not poo the bed in the first quarter, we wouldn’t have been reliant on those throws because we would have been running the clock out the entire 4th quarter.

[pantherclaw]

You put a lot of effort to dismiss any good anyone does. That sir, is a waste of time and energy.  

2 things I will never do again with you. 

[Navy_football]

I keep hearing that Bryce "gifted" the Dolphins 14 points, and the game would have been closer to the ATL game if not for his turnovers. I don't agree. Didnt they drive down to inside the 10 on their first drive, and came away with a FG? Now the fumble was a complete doophus moment but it didn't gift them points. They still had to drive 50+ yards to score. Defense gave up a 3rd and 8, a 3rd and 7, a 4th and 5, and a 3rd and goal from the 10. That's on the D. Horrible fumble by the QB but it didn't put them in scoring position.

Same with the interception, which I don't mind as much. At least he was throwing downfield. It happens. But that put them on the 50 yard line. That's not scoring position. Evero adjusted with stunts and more exotic blitzes after those TDs. Honestly think they score 13+ points with or without the turnovers.

[OldhamA]

18 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Woof, that's a rough list. I know UNC homers will bang the drum for Trubisky and Howell.  The Colts ain't letting Indiana Jones leave.  Again, slim pickings.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2026/position/qb

I'd take a swing on Tray Lance in a competition scenario.  

I don't think the Chargers will let Lance leave.

You're realistically going to have to trade for one of the better backups in the league - or spunk your first overall on a massive gamble / pay a terrible 30+ year old to start. 

[Waldo]

18 hours ago, electro's horse said:

make the playoffs/be competitive in every game, same difference. 

I don't understand this infatuation with drafting a guy. Two of the best QBs in the league right now are Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, on their 5th and 4th teams respectively. One of the main reasons Canales was hired was his work with a 10th year qb in Seattle. Daniel Jones is looking like he's going to be a playoff QB. 

Why reach on a prospect when you can get reasonable production from elsewhere and add higher floor players at areas of need

Neither one will win a SB. Better to watch football 100% but Sam folds under pressure and Baker should at least make a secent playoff run. 

Do both IMO. Most of the guys coming out need a year anyways. Go do that and have somecompletion along the way. Best case, you can trade one for more than you drafted one of them for. Win-win. 

[CPcavedweller]

22 hours ago, OldhamA said:

As a Canes fan, we're very much missing Cam Ward.

If he was our QB this year I think we win the National Title. I'm nowhere near as bullish with Carson Beck under Centre.

Dude, Beck is so much more efficient than Ward it's hardly even worth talking about. With Ward I feel like that USF game would have bene a one score affair, the FSU game probably ends up being a loss, and the UF game, with how much better their defense is this year, would have been a lot closer. The reason being because Ward is/was quite careless with the ball and he plays "Super Man ball". 

You guys are iffy on Beck because he's playing on time, within the framework of the offense. He isn't making the off-schedule plays when the receivers aren't there but when the receivers are on their P's and Q's, Beck can deliver it anywhere, on time, and in phase.

You also have to realize that Beck has led Miami to wins over Notre Dame, a ranked USF, a likely Top 20 team in Florida, and now Florida State. He's already led Miami to more marquee wins than Ward had all of last season.

I watch a ton of college football. If Beck has the mentality to be great, and will put in the work to be great, he has a chance to be really, really good. Reminds me a lot of Jared Goff honestly, or a Joe Burrow type as a thrower of the ball.