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Waldo Grand Master

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I'll take Jones on a prove it deal but start talking average QB pay and it's probably going to end closer to how it did in NY. They can spend that extra 20 million elsewhere. And he did play well on his prove it year there too, that's how he got his extension he couldn't live up to.

Some guys are better in that range before their own pay strangles what gives them their best chance at succeeding.

His coaching looks good too but I would still be mighty careful with the extension they are probably looking at for him. 

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It's less of an uphill battle to build a redemption story when you have the physical tools.

He also has a playoff win.

Honestly amuses me to see people downplaying him considering what we've become accustomed to at QB over the course of 37 games.

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35 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I'll take Jones on a prove it deal but start talking average QB pay and it's probably going to end closer to how it did in NY. They can spend that extra 20 million elsewhere. And he did play well on his prove it year there too, that's how he got his extension he couldn't live up to.

Some guys are better in that range before their own pay strangles what gives them their best chance at succeeding.

His coaching looks good too but I would still be mighty careful with the extension they are probably looking at for him. 

If you are talking about how a huge salary would impact the team’s ability to build with quality players, due to the financial burden it imposes, I am in unqualified agreement 

If you mean because the pressure of justifying it affects his performance, I would not swallow that pill unquestionably.
He was in NYC which is the nastiest and more pressure packed media market in the league, and just won’t face the same ‘blood in the water’ viciousness in Indianapolis (or here). 
 

I thought I knew that guy was a good gamble to be rehabbed.and wished we had open minded people making the calls here. 

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32 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

hes a product of the system

 

granted you have to have some baseline talent which he has but he has good coaching there

 

dont think he would do as good elsewhere

That's the coach I wanted well above Reich. He and Stroud would probably be pretty good together 

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38 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

hes a product of the system

 

granted you have to have some baseline talent which he has but he has good coaching there

 

dont think he would do as good elsewhere

He would probably be balling out in San Fran or Detroit too as some examples.

Undoubtedly, he wouldn't play nearly that well here.

7 minutes ago, toldozer said:

That's the coach I wanted well above Reich. He and Stroud would probably be pretty good together 

Well anyone is going to look good next to Brian Daboll, who is the worst head coach in the NFL.

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14 minutes ago, strato said:

If you are talking about how a huge salary would impact the team’s ability to build with quality players, due to the financial burden it imposes, I am in unqualified agreement 

If you mean because the pressure of justifying it affects his performance, I would not swallow that pill unquestionably.
He was in NYC which is the nastiest and more pressure packed media market in the league, and just won’t face the same ‘blood in the water’ viciousness in Indianapolis (or here). 
 

I thought I knew that guy was a good gamble to be rehabbed.and wished we had open minded people making the calls here. 

It's the first and the second is the inevitable with thr first being met. Dude has 2 good years and both in contract years too. 

 

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13 minutes ago, toldozer said:

That's the coach I wanted well above Reich. He and Stroud would probably be pretty good together 

Pretty sure Tepper wanted BY regardless of the coach. Unfortunately for Panthers fans. I am confident Reich did not want BY. 

 

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Pretty sure Tepper wanted BY regardless of the coach. Unfortunately for Panthers fans. I am confident Reich did not want BY. 

 

 

Seemed very obvious that Frank didn’t want Bryce to be selected.
And having put Bryce on him, Tepper compounded the error by ignoring Frank’s also obvious strong desire to sit him at first because of his atrocious footwork and just general unreadiness. 
 

poo show ensues. 

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27 minutes ago, Waldo said:

It's the first and the second is the inevitable with thr first being met. Dude has 2 good years and both in contract years too. 

 

I think the second is less than inevitable, yet still possible of course.
That was kind of a circus in NYC. With a strong staff and the experience he has gotten out of his NYG time, it could be different. 

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3 hours ago, NAS said:

Add Daniel Jones to a growing list of redemption stories including Darnold and Baker.  Ironically he could have been picked up by anyone 

Imagine being the valedictorian for your Ivy League university. Perfect grades, massively well done final projects, research grants and countless mentions in the newspapers and on TV for the strides you made.

And there are only 32 employers out there that can hire you and make use of you. Now imagine that the worst businesses, the ones with the least resources and most chaotic workplaces get first dibs on you.

Trumpian dystopia? Nope. The NFL draft. Killing young QBs since day 1.

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