Seth Walder: Regrading 8 trades from the 2024 NFL trade deadline

[strato]

[replying to Jon Snow]
Happy with him too. Should have included him. And the new (last year?) analytics guy they hired away from the firm Dimitrof was involved in,  probably has added some value to the team. 
 

Whatever they did the 2025 draft is paying unheard of early dividends. And when you look at the 2024 and want to trash it, we need to remember we got Scourton from the trade down with the Rams. I mentioned that earlier today but it has been totally overlooked. By me too. 

Edited 22 hours ago by strato

[Bear Hands]

5 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

watch the netflix doc and it all makes sense

The guy that looked like Kevin Costner was the wild one

[ProcessBlue2]

Maybe Evero can fool somebody into hiring him this year so we can get two 3rd round picks.

I will say though, he has improved so I will give him credit there.

Edited 21 hours ago by ProcessBlue2
Deserves some credit

[App Panther]

7 hours ago, PanthersNCSU said:

Etienne.

So, eh. But better than Mingo

Yea. He seems like he’s getting better at Punt Returns. And does provide a little change of pace when he spelled Rico briefly. Already contributing more than Mingo ever did.

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

Jonathan mingo diving out of bounds still might be funniest poo I ever seen 

https://x.com/mikerenner_/status/1729167585923715442?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1729167585923715442|twgr^517d571cd4a5e0681595869a55c252b3ff49f14c|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2F1gk8wp5%2F%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dtrue

[PanthersNCSU]

11 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I think you need to give some credit to Tillis as well. He's been instrumental in helping Dan understand player value and trade value relative to the draft. Dan was not a draft expert to say the least. He needed help with that and Tillis so far has earned his money. 

Hopeful that the 2025 draft is a sign of the new regime, and that 2024 was a a hangover from the old. I imagine somebody like Tillis not being hired until a couple months before the draft wouldn't come in and rock the boat too much. Give input, but still feeling the situation out. 2025 was more of his "first" draft here in my eyes. 

[RumHam]

16 hours ago, Captroop said:

You have to credit Bryce for one thing, he paradoxically increased the trade value of our trash receivers. 

Teams were thinking, "these guys only look like crap because Carolina's QB situation is so bad." Little did the know, they were just crap.

Lookit Bryce! Little by little helping us claw back the draft capital we frittered away on him. 

you backers will reach on absolutely anything you can.

[hepcat]

16 hours ago, strato said:

I think Dan Morgan has fooled some of us and will turn out to be pretty shrewd. After this past year I think you have fo see how he can do with another offseason 

I think many were concerned because Morgan worked with Fitterer, and was in the room when many poor decisions were made in the past, including passing on the Brian Burns haul from the Rams, trading up for Bryce Young, and then turning around and not re-signing Burns and trading him for only a 2nd round pick. From 2022-2024 the team jettisoned way more talent than it brought back in, most of it being Fitterer's fault, but Morgan had to shoulder some of that blame too. 

He seems to be getting better and that makes me hopeful, but time will tell. 

[kungfoodude]

28 minutes ago, hepcat said:

I think many were concerned because Morgan worked with Fitterer, and was in the room when many poor decisions were made in the past, including passing on the Brian Burns haul from the Rams, trading up for Bryce Young, and then turning around and not re-signing Burns and trading him for only a 2nd round pick. From 2022-2024 the team jettisoned way more talent than it brought back in, most of it being Fitterer's fault, but Morgan had to shoulder some of that blame too. 

He seems to be getting better and that makes me hopeful, but time will tell. 

I think we need to let the 2025 class develop. Remember at one point early during last season the 2024 class was gonna be a killer. And we had all kinds of people chirping about how the 2021 Draft was the greatest of all time.

Early returns are promising. Let's hope it continues.

[Basbear]

If Dan/Brady keep winning trades like that, no one will want to trade with them. 

giggles Gm Howie has that rep, many GMs refuse to even talk to him. 

[Luciu5]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I think we need to let the 2025 class develop. Remember at one point early during last season the 2024 class was gonna be a killer. And we had all kinds of people chirping about how the 2021 Draft was the greatest of all time.

Early returns are promising. Let's hope it continues.

Idk about best of all time, but 4 guys from that draft are still on the roster and contributing. That's pretty good when 4 draftees get second contracts from the org that drafted them.

[Basbear]

8 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I think we need to let the 2025 class develop. Remember at one point early during last season the 2024 class was gonna be a killer. And we had all kinds of people chirping about how the 2021 Draft was the greatest of all time.

Early returns are promising. Let's hope it continues.

2021 is one of the better classes, not the famed 2003,, but its upper half no question. 

[kungfoodude]

45 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

Idk about best of all time, but 4 guys from that draft are still on the roster and contributing. That's pretty good when 4 draftees get second contracts from the org that drafted them.

 

28 minutes ago, Basbear said:

2021 is one of the better classes, not the famed 2003,, but its upper half no question. 

It netted one potentially elite player, one solid starter and two role players. That's pretty good but that was in 11 shots on goal. It was billed as a franchise changer and it didn't turn out that way. 3 out of the top 4 was still good.