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Greg Olsen weighs in on Dan and Dave's strategy to build the Panthers.


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Sure he is a former Panther and stays involved with the team but I think he is a  straight shooter and tells it like it is. He surely seems more positive than folks around here and he surely knows a lot more than folks here. Feel free to respond to me but know I claim no expertise just repost those who I respect and think are.

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but I do think there is sort of a well placed plan in place and I think last season when they benched Bryce so quickly (and a move that was essentially moving on from him very quickly)........showed that.  Everything they have done but allowing the Bryce Young comeback mucking it up does seems to fit a plan.  Bryce Young remains the weird puzzle piece given the Canales O. 

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6 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

The elephant in the room being the QB.

I don't know why talking heads aren't brave enough to address it.

No one wants to be on record IF Bryce figures it all out. Plus Olsen has to remain somewhat impartial as an active announcer. 

As to the Tepper trash talk, I think he came into the league trying to swing his big brass balls around and quickly learned (I hope) that he'd do better and make more money by shutting TF up and letting the professionals make the decisions. Maybe not quickly enough, but I think he has stepped back some.

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I am not unhappy with either Dan or Dave at this point. I know some are.  
I was unhappy that Young needed so much propping up but understand that whoever was in the GM job would have the same marching orders. 
Said I wouldn’t judge them for last year and this is on the clock. Can’t say I am down on either but I think Canales has the harder job and will probably ly need more patience. 

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9 minutes ago, strato said:

I am not unhappy with either Dan or Dave at this point. I know some are.  
I was unhappy that Young needed so much propping up but understand that whoever was in the GM job would have the same marching orders. 
Said I wouldn’t judge them for last year and this is on the clock. Can’t say I am down on either but I think Canales has the harder job and will probably ly need more patience. 

I do think this super tiny window.......is really carrying way too much power vs the bigger picture.  Seeing it on lots of topics.  Things could really swing hard the other direction in a few weeks. 

huddle collective will take really hard swings in different directions after just a very small sample of good or bad.  Evero is the worst DC in the NFL written in stone to well......maybe....  Canales is a bad playcaller......well, Luke said something nice after a Rico Dowdle goes wild game.   

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I sure hope D & D don’t sacrifice the longer term on the altar of an imagined ‘window’.  We don’t need any ‘win now’ trades.  We are still in the rebuilding phase and need two more drafts minimum and intelligent FA signings to properly build this roster for long term competitiveness.

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59 minutes ago, CRA said:

but I do think there is sort of a well placed plan in place and I think last season when they benched Bryce so quickly (and a move that was essentially moving on from him very quickly)........showed that.  Everything they have done but allowing the Bryce Young comeback mucking it up does seems to fit a plan.  Bryce Young remains the weird puzzle piece given the Canales O. 

Canales has to be hoping and praying Dalton balls out. Just please have enough left in the tank that I can open up the playbook and show what I actually want to do on offense.

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

I do think this super tiny window.......is really carrying way too much power vs the bigger picture.  Seeing it on lots of topics.  Things could really swing hard the other direction in a few weeks. 

huddle collective will take really hard swings in different directions after just a very small sample of good or bad.  Evero is the worst DC in the NFL written in stone to well......maybe....  Canales is a bad playcaller......well, Luke said something nice after a Rico Dowdle goes wild game.   

Are we not in year 8 of Tepper with only misery to show for it? 
It is hard to criticize people for impatience.

But we are going to have to find some more patience. 

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34 minutes ago, frankw said:

Greg is playing the media game no different than anyone else. He has a great deal of knowledge but he isn't going to bluntly assess the Panthers cons publicly. But he has eyes.

Abs you can bet he and his ex teammates will discuss off the record too. 

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5 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Sure he is a former Panther and stays involved with the team but I think he is a  straight shooter and tells it like it is. He surely seems more positive than folks around here and he surely knows a lot more than folks here. Feel free to respond to me but know I claim no expertise just repost those who I respect and think are.

I mean, he really didn't say anything specific. There were a lot of generalities. Of course we need to invest in defense like we have on offense, execute in the draft, and develop the players so we can start reaping the benefits and see the plan come to life on the football field. That's what it's all about. 

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