I'm All In On Drafting a QB in Round 1

[PNW_PantherMan]

18 minutes ago, Mage said:

I don't know about that man.  We would be picking 16th if the draft started today.  We still have 2 games left against the Saints and regardless of how you feel about us - they look much worse.

I'm 100% down to take a QB in the 1st, but I really doubt we will be in a position to do so.  It isn't a strong class to start with.

Yea that's why I'm on board with signing some cast off veteran QB to a 1 year prove it deal.  Just keep building the team and get someone at QB who can be functional at the NFL level for now.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, tukafan21 said:

Not against it, clearly, seeing as I'm one of the more vocal anti-Bryce guys on here.

But I'm nowhere near saying that I'm "all in" on it at this point, for many reasons.  Mainly because it's way too early to know where we'll be drafting, what QB's will be actually worth 1st round picks, and who might be there once we're on the clock.

If there is a QB that makes sense, then yes, 100% I'm in.

But reaching and taking the wrong QB will set us back another 5 years.  We're not a piece or two away from contending, but I do think we have a lot of nice building blocks in place that if we go about things the right way the next few offseasons, we have a real shot at being relevant again this decade.

It would not set us back 5 years when it would only cost 1 draft pick. Now if they try to trade up again I will be all for burning BOA to the ground. 

[Khyber53]

The reality is that Moton is on his last legs as a player. We desperately need a MLB who can run the defense. And then we need a QB.

When it's our turn to pick, and no cutesy farting around with trades, we take the most unquestionably solid one of those three positions left on the board, in that order. Then in the second round take the next one, and then the third. 

Third Round QB? Honestly, can't be less inspiring than what we have now. Bryce is a good kid and I've hoped he was turning into a world beater, but it just ain't happening. And I think that the coach that sat him on the bench last season, needs to sit down and have that difficult talk with the young man. Bryce might make a really good back-up QB but he just doesn't have that it factor, or the size. And we need to move on to save not just the coach's job but also the future seasons of the rest of the players on this team.

God bless him, he tried and he had his moments, but there just haven't been enough moments so far. Maybe something will blossom mightily in the next few games. 

[tukafan21]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It would not set us back 5 years when it would only cost 1 draft pick. Now if they try to trade up again I will be all for burning BOA to the ground. 

If you take a QB in the 1st and it doesn't work out, it absolutely sets you back 3-5 years unless you're so bad that you luck into another top pick in a good QB year and can replace them before that time period is up.

Because if that doesn't happen, you end up with that QB as your starer for at least 3 years, even if you then replace them after that time, you generally have a year or two of growth with a new QB too.

So yea, if you take the wrong QB in the 1st round, it's usually going to be a good 5 years before you have a chance to be a contending team again.

And yes, I know that's not a hard rule that always takes place, but in 95% of the bad 1st round QB picks, that's the case.

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

If you take a QB in the 1st and it doesn't work out, it absolutely sets you back 3-5 years unless you're so bad that you luck into another top pick in a good QB year and can replace them before that time period is up.

Because if that doesn't happen, you end up with that QB as your starer for at least 3 years, even if you then replace them after that time, you generally have a year or two of growth with a new QB too.

So yea, if you take the wrong QB in the 1st round, it's usually going to be a good 5 years before you have a chance to be a contending team again.

And yes, I know that's not a hard rule that always takes place, but in 95% of the bad 1st round QB picks, that's the case.

It's a hell of a lot longer than that when you refuse to give up on a lost cause too.

[LinvilleGorge]

I'm all in on keeping our options open. We need to sign a legit veteran journeyman in FA and then we need to keep QB on the table in the draft. If the right fit is there in the 1st, great. Take him. If not, take the BPA or listen to trade offers coming in and then try to add a developmental guy after the 1st. But we cannot go into next year still pretending that Bryce Young and the washed up ghost of Andy Dalton is the answer.

[mrcompletely11]

19 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Bryce is getting a year four, whether he gets the 5th -year option or not.  Don't bank on drafting a first round QB.

it doesnt work like that

[mrcompletely11]

For you guys that want a vet FA

 

WOOF

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2026/position/qb

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

If you take a QB in the 1st and it doesn't work out, it absolutely sets you back 3-5 years unless you're so bad that you luck into another top pick in a good QB year and can replace them before that time period is up.

Because if that doesn't happen, you end up with that QB as your starer for at least 3 years, even if you then replace them after that time, you generally have a year or two of growth with a new QB too.

So yea, if you take the wrong QB in the 1st round, it's usually going to be a good 5 years before you have a chance to be a contending team again.

And yes, I know that's not a hard rule that always takes place, but in 95% of the bad 1st round QB picks, that's the case.

If he wins the starting job there's no set back. If you are seeking someone to start day 1 and ball out from there then good luck. Doing nothing at qb is not a strategy and counting on a FA reject to magically become a Franchise QB is not a real plan either. They will have to draft another qb if you really want Young replaced at QB1.

[PNW_PantherMan]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

For you guys that want a vet FA

 

WOOF

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2026/position/qb

Yeah they suck.  But we need to sign one of them.

[NAS]

27 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

This QB draft class kinda sucks. Like the year that we had the 1st pick. I would keep Bryce since it’s the last year of his contract, go after one of the higher end veteran QBs in FA, whoever that will be, and then take a shot on day 2 or 3 on somebody like Haynes King.

At that point, if it fails you can clean house and the new staff has a chance to pick their QB.

Our 1st rounder needs to go towards Edge or LB. Maybe OL but that can probably be handled in Free Agency.

Exactly. Unless you’re convinced the draft pick is better than Beyce it’s a waste of pick. Not opposed to drafting one in later rounds and develop

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

For you guys that want a vet FA

 

WOOF

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/_/year/2026/position/qb

Honestly, I'd take at least a third of that list over Bryce/Dalton.

[tukafan21]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

If he wins the starting job there's no set back. If you are seeking someone to start day 1 and ball out from there then good luck. Doing nothing at qb is not a strategy and counting on a FA reject to magically become a Franchise QB is not a real plan either. They will have to draft another qb if you really want Young replaced at QB1.

I didn't say do nothing if we don't draft one in the 1st and I"m not counting on a FA to magically become a franchise QB.

But signing a FA to be our starter for the year and then re-address the next offseason would be FAR better than reaching on the wrong QB in the 1st this offseason.

Feeling we HAVE to find our long term solution just because we need a new QB is how we got into this mess.  We thought Two Gloves would be at worst an average level QB for a few years, that didn't happen, so we went out and traded for Darnold.  That didn't work so we went out and traded for Baker, that didn't work so we went out and traded up to get Bryce.

Our last 4 QB moves were all trying to force a solution, none of them worked out, and we're still trying to find Cam's replacement all these years later.  We'd just have been better off spending a year or two building up the rest of the team and going year to year on FA QB's while doing so.  I get it, it will be frustrating to deal with, but then when you find that actual long term solution, they plug right into an already built out roster and you're ready to contend immediately.

[45catfan]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

it doesnt work like that

So we cut him if we don't give him the option?  I'm pretty sure there are players who didn't get the 5th-year option that played year four of their rookie contracts with their draft team.