Dave’s Double-Speak Says It All

[Pantherxtreme]

12 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

He had Coker open coming across the field several times and he didn't hit him.

Several times.

In the Green Bay game the pass that got picked off in the end zone Coker was open underneath. 

It doesn't appear he's reading the coverages correctly that's why so many passes are getting intercepted. 

[frankw]

Dave Canales constantly deflecting for poor to horrific QB play is like nails on a chalk board at this point. We need to begin addressing the issues head on instead of our head coach constantly trying to be the constructive dad like Ned Flanders. This nonsense is not going to change the culture of the team for the better. The only inevitable outcome is other players are going to eventually just check out and start making business decisions. Embrace accountability and if need be when the time comes which is now that you have a QB who is FORTY games deep and is abundantly clearly the problem then identify it and stop making lame ass excuses. No. More. Coddling.

Edited 1 hour ago by frankw

[Proudiddy]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

I do not believe this is true at all.   

Bryce scrambling means no proper base.  Means his weak arm is at it's weakest.  Which means downfield throws are even more risky for him.  

as the OP says, you can see the deep calls.  Bryce normally has time.  Holds.  Scrambles or checks down.  The balls Bryce Young will throw downfield are generally when the call has something on the sideline.  And Bryce makes these throws super hard on WRs.  They generally are turned into jump balls 90% of the time when that's not what the throw asks for.   I think the only deep ball he is comfortable attempting is when he can borderline push the ball out of bounds if the WR doesn't' get it. 

To further your point, CRA, I still remember someone posted here in the pre-draft buildup a whole spreadsheet of each QB prospect from that draft class’ advanced stats.  It showed the attempts, completions, yards by area on the field, depth, whether it was in the pocket or out, etc., and I remember vividly, I was already out in Bryce based off my observations and feelings from the season prior…  but in the spirit of objectivity, I decided to look at it with a fresh set of eyes, and all it did was further cement what I saw.  What stood out to me most was that Bryce was THE WORST prospect out of that whole class in completions to the sidelines.  I remember already thinking he had a weak arm, but seeing that in the stats just gave me further conviction that he was not going to translate to the league because that’s one of the biggest staples in NFL football.  I also remember looking at all of the other throws to other locations on the field and compared to the other prospects I walked away feeling, “well, what does he do well?”  It was almost jarring compared to the reputation he had been given.  Nothing stood out.  And that exact evaluation and sentiment has carried over to his pro career. I really wish I could remember who made the thread or find it.  

[frankw]

Boys in here already pooing posts

Truth hurts.

[HPPantherzfan]

25 minutes ago, OneBadCat said:

He had Coker open coming across the field several times and he didn't hit him.

This, WRs were open, he couldn’t see them.  His eyes tell the defenders everything they need to know

[LinvilleGorge]

He's basically screaming that the QB room is an anchor around the offense's neck. Everyone who has any working understanding of the game of football and is being remotely objective can see it. I just hope Tepper can accept it. I'm convinced Canales and Morgan are ready to move on. Probably begging to move on.

[Chief Keek]

13 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Several times.

In the Green Bay game the pass that got picked off in the end zone Coker was open underneath. 

It doesn't appear he's reading the coverages correctly that's why so many passes are getting intercepted. 

That's because he can't actually read the defense, I've seen him consistently get baited into making bad throws. That whole shtick about him being a elite processor was oversold.

[Proudiddy]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's basically screaming that the QB room is an anchor around the offense's neck. Everyone who has any working understanding of the game of football and is being remotely objective can see it. I just hope Tepper can accept it. I'm convinced Canales and Morgan are ready to move on. Probably begging to move on.

That’s the feel of it, because there’s no other way around what he’s saying and trying not to say.  

[OneBadCat]

Cam would ball with this offense. Even now. Honestly, I'd love to see if a few years removed from the game has allowed his shoulder to heal. 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Yea I'm over it and ready to move on. 2.5 seasons is plenty of time and Bryce only seems to have regressed as the talent around him has gotten better. Just have to hope Tepper lets DC bring in legitimate competition for QB1 next year and not the corpse of old man Andy Dalton. I have a feeling Evero will probably be the scape goat and Canales should probably get a chance to hand pick his DC and QB going into next year. But I'd almost be alright with a full on reset as well. Idk I'm just tired of watching Bryce Young and Andy Dalton play football to be honest.

Edited 5 minutes ago by Mr Mojo Risin