I’m not sure people understand how fuging bad it is

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

That's the kicker. 2 first round WRs (one that looks like a potential superstar in the making), the most expensive ol in the league, two good to great RBs... And yeah ...

add in offensive head coach.  5 of the last 6 first and second round picks have gone to the O. 

 

[strato]

4 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Name the last time you saw a QB struggle to get 150 passing yards every game and keep their job?  This is NOT normal and we’ve just accepted it.

I guess by ‘we’ you mean The Panthers, because there are many people here who have accepted it.  
It has been forced on us but we don’t accept it. 

[L-TownCat]

The evidence is clear.  It’s either willful ignorance or gross incompetence.  There are no other options.

They’re  either choosing to ignore facts or too stupid to know what they’re  looking at in the first place.  Either way, there’s no use in talking or arguing with Bryce supporters.  They’re never going to admit/get it.

[Diehardpanth02]

3 hours ago, ImfromClayton said:

I just don't know what to think at this point. One would think with the money spent on O-line and RB, and the draft capital spent at WR and TE there's no excuse. 

I've been thinking we were one good defense heavy draft away from being competitive, but I'm definitely in the realm of reevaluating. I hate to restart the clock on this group, because I think the core group is good, but man, at some point Bryce has to either get more consistent or we gotta sit him. 

There isn’t anything to restart. I’m about out on Dave too after the most atrocious play calling I’ve witnessed in pro ball last night. But Bryce is and has always been the issue. You replace him with even a middling QB we are play off bound and leading then division. The roster as a whole Dan has done a pretty good job with. We go heavy on Defense with LB, and Edge guys, and then draft QB with every single pick until we find the guy to get us there

[fanpanther]

4 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Name the last time you saw a QB struggle to get 150 passing yards every game and keep their job?  This is NOT normal and we’ve just accepted it.

Whats even crazieer is alot of the fans or ai bots posting on facebook still support byoung... it makes no sense kyle allen matt more tayler heinicki all had way way way better stats and everyone hated them but young plays horrific and people still support him.  I even saw a profootballtalk article and it said quote "maybe teams will learn to stick with qbs longer after seeing how well young is doing with the panthers" LIKE WHAT ARE THEY WATCHING

[Pantherxtreme]

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I can't get over the fact that Purdy threw 3 picks in the 1st half and all we could get was 3 points.  That game should have been over in favor of us at halftime.  Or at least, we should have had a good lead.  Can you imagine if that was a playoff game?

And if we had landed on that fumble. our defense would have created more turnovers in the game than our offense had points at that moment. 

Amazing futility. 

[blackcat]

They need to pull the plug on BY, but they'll give him the entire season to 'prove it'.  Besides, who the hell else is going to play QB?  Regardless of BY, nine rushing attempts combined for Dowdle and Hubbard is beyond comprehension.  Is DC really that bad or is he purposely doing this to prove to our dumbass owner that BY sucks?

Edited 1 hour ago by blackcat

[LinvilleGorge]

I've never seen a player get a leash this long before. Bryce is the perfect awful combination of massive investment, limited ceiling, awful play, and being a genuinely good guy and teammate to create an absolute QB quagmire. We absolutely have to move on after this season. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

[strato]

16 minutes ago, strato said:

I guess by ‘we’ you mean The Panthers, because there are many people here who have accepted it.  
It has been forced on us but we don’t accept it. 

I messed that up. It should have said “who have Not accepted it.”  

[TD alt]

4 hours ago, Waldo said:

It will be worse when they pick up his 5th. You know they want to do it

If they pick up Bryce Young's fifth year option, it will tell us that they are clueles as it pertains to management of personnel and running a damned franchise. It would be nonsensical. His body of work doesn't warrant picking up his option, and it doesn't even rise to the level of making a decision based upon desperation, because there are arguably bench players that can do just as well and maybe even better. I can't explain how profoundly incompetent that picking up Bryce Young's fifth year option would be. It would simply be wrong. Anyone that can't see that is idiotic.

Edited 1 hour ago by TD alt

[Pantherxtreme]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I've never seen a player get a leash this long before. Bryce is the perfect awful combination of massive investment, limited ceiling, awful play, and being a genuinely good guy and teammate to create an absolute QB quagmire. We absolutely have to move on after this season. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

I can see why the Browns organization and fans would have wanted to move on from Baker due to his demeanor, and attitude disposition without the results.

Bryce however is the model citizen would be the perfect face of your franchise if he was performing on the field. 

He's very likeable, so people think you bullying or hating on this kid when you point it out. 

No he's just not performing bruh, that's it!!!

 

[Chaos]

If our franchise wasn’t so poverty, small market, and nationally irrelevant, big media would have eviscerated us long ago and it likely would have resulted in change quicker.  But here we are. 

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, TD alt said:

If they pick up Bryce Young's fifth year option, it will tell us that they are clueles as it pertains to management of personnel and running a damned franchise. It would be nonsensical. His body of work doesn't warrant picking up his option, and it doesn't even rise to the level of making a decision based upon desperation, because there are arguably bench players that can do just as well and maybe even better. I can't explain how profoundly incompetent that picking up Bryce Young's fifth year option would be. It would simply be wrong. Anyone that can't see that is idiotic.

I'm with you. He shouldn't even be on the team next year regardless.

I still think they would 100% do it today if they had to make the choice. You summed it up perfectly and that's how I see this crew already after coming into the year with a resigned Dalton

[ClawOn]

4 hours ago, Waldo said:

It will be worse when they pick up his 5th. You know they want to do it

That would certainly be the inflection point for the future of the organization.  I think Morgan knows better, but we sure as hell are doomed if he doesn't.