Okay gentlemen, REAL talk...

[tukafan21]

8 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Why?   You are not doing a good job explaining your opinion 

He doesn't need to, because it's obvious.

We're winning games and in the playoff hunt, for Tepper and this fanbase after how bad we've been for so long, that's always going to be enough at this point.

Bryce hasn't earned that extension getting picked up, but when you're in the playoff hunt at this point in the season after how our last decade has been, it's going to get that QB's option picked up almost no matter what.

And that's the problem, we're going to screw our long term future because people can't look past wins.

And I also have to be clear, this isn't a Bryce bashing post based on today, he did just play one of his better games of the season just by way of not making bad mistakes and by making a couple well placed throws.

But having said that, it also need to be pointed out that it's not a recipe for long term sustained success either.  It's the recipe for those teams that have random years of hovering around .500 before falling back to earth the next season because the ball isn't bouncing their way every week.

Edited 1 hour ago by tukafan21

[HPPantherzfan]

Yea that whole thread on we have a DC problem just got blown up

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, AceBoogie said:

You don’t know what a fact is. What sewer school system did you come from?

Hey looks who is back and is angrier than ever?

[Aussie Tank]

Just now, TLGPanthersFan said:

And hope we build the 2019 Niners? Because that is really the only way you are gonna build a contender around Bryce and that type of team doesn't happen very often.

I just don't think the QB upgrade is there without doing something stupid again 

[TLGPanthersFan]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We won.

And believe it or not this was a genuinely relevant game, the kind we haven't had in years.

That matters...a lot

Yeah, but if the running game had of been stopped we would have lost. Yes, Bryce played well and did what was asked of him. But if we had of had to rely on him passing the game would have been a much different story.

This game shouldn't move the needle at all when it come to giving Bryce his 5th year.

Edited 1 hour ago by TLGPanthersFan

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, frankw said:

They control their own destiny here.

When's the last time you could say that this late in a season? 

And to be clear, I'm not saying that rhetorically. I genuinely don't remember

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

For a head coaching job?

Why would he stay after tepper showing his true colors?

[Car123]

Bryce is top 10 in touchdown passes this season.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

When's the last time you could say that this late in a season? 

And to be clear, I'm not saying that rhetorically. I genuinely don't remember

and you think Bryce is the reason for this?  

[Butterflyj30]

We'll have to see how the season unfolds

Edited 1 hour ago by Butterflyj30

[Diehardpanth02]

I think we gotta roll with Dave. He’s had his head scratchers, but I think that is him trying to limit the mistakes with Bryce. We can be aggressive and trust his gut we are usually in a good place.

now on to the problem. Bryce. Unfortunately we have to take the 5th year on Bryce. We can’t afford to go into the season with dalton as back up though. I think we need a vet that can threaten him, that fits well with the scheme. And then draft a QB. I really hope we don’t offer Bryce a long term deal though, but this team is a few pieces away from being really good and QB is one of them.

hopefully we can retain Evero. I think he’s shown us what he can do when he has the personnel I like. We get him a good linebacker that can assist in the run game plus a good pass rushing DE and we have a top 10 defense. 
 

LB, DE, QB and OL should be our top priorities moving forward. But to be quite honest I’m hopeful. I just don’t know what the heck Bryce is. And unfortunately he hasn’t shown much up until this season, and even still I feel he is mediocre at best. But if you build the right roster around him we may could still make a push.

but damnit a drake maye style guys sets us over the top and back in contender conversations 

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

That’s what I’m saying, I guess we forget all about the majority of his games which have been poo. Maybe he’s assuming the team will mess up and pick it up like I have been assuming? 

Because that's how it's trending...strongly trending.

It'd take something damn near biblical at this point to change course. 

[The Lobo]

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Why?   You are not doing a good job explaining your opinion 

I think he’s trying to say what he thinks the team will do, not that it’s the best decision or a decision he would make. 

[LinvilleGorge]

If Bryce continues to be an effective game manager I'm okay with the 5th year option. I don't love it, but I'm okay with it. 

But we have to stop pretending that he's the answer and we have to bring in legit competition. Not a guy signed to happily hold a clipboard, but a guy coming in to try to take the job.