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tukafan21 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

I never base "great performance" choices on stats. 

There's soooo much more to football than stats. 

1 million percent agree.

But this isn't "football", it's the "air and ground player of the week"

I think you should ONLY be looking at stats for something like that, and maybe that's just a personal way of interpreting this award.

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1 hour ago, WUnderhill said:

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Thoroughly...

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

1 million percent agree.

But this isn't "football", it's the "air and ground player of the week"

I think you should ONLY be looking at stats for something like that, and maybe that's just a personal way of interpreting this award.

Jerome Bettis once took part in a game where he had five carries for negative one yard. Did those stats define his importance in that game?

I'm always gonna look at the role somebody plays as infinitely more important than their stats. 

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3 hours ago, jasonluckydog said:

Bryce Young

Anthony Richardson 

CJ Stroud

Will Levis

CJ is in the lead but BY is catching him if you compare stats. Right now I believe we picked the best QB in that class. 

Stroud has a Pro Bowl but BY could make a case if he stays consistent. 

 

 

I've got to drink a triple Scotch before I comment on that.

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29 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Thoroughly...

Jerome Bettis once took part in a game where he had five carries for negative one yard. Did those stats define his importance in that game?

I'm always gonna look at the role somebody plays as infinitely more important than their stats. 

But we're not talking about someone's role or importance to a team, that's an entirely different conversation.  In general, when you're just talking about building a roster or how a team looks, or anything along those lines, then I 100% agree with you.

But this is for the Air and Ground Player of the Week.

To me, I've always interpreted that as who had the best passing/rushing/recieving performances of the week, completely separate and irrelevant to a team's success/failure in that week.

I wouldn't take the same issue with it if someone said he should be nominated for Offensive Player of the Week, that would be an award where the things you're talking about should be factored in.  I just feel this is not that type of weekly award where role or team outcome has any factor in it, and it's who had the best statistical output that week.

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2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

1 million percent agree.

But this isn't "football", it's the "air and ground player of the week"

I think you should ONLY be looking at stats for something like that, and maybe that's just a personal way of interpreting this award.

I think the stats he’s nominated for are 3 TDs of 30+ yds, 2 on 4th down, 0 turnovers, 75% completion, 147 rating, etc. Unless “stats” is code for “400 yards”, his stats are certainly worthy of winning the award.

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1 minute ago, jb2288 said:

It isnt 2019 anymore. Drake Maybe is the MVP favorite and hasn’t even thrown for 300 yards in a game. 

Again, as I've noted in my other posts in this thread, we're not talking about the actual MVP award, we're talking about an award who's purpose is to award great statistical performances.

And beyond that, you used a terrible example to try and support Bryce here.

No, he doesn't have a 300 yard game, but he's also currently leading the league in passing yards (yes, he'll fall a couple spots while on by this week, but he's still currently 4th in the league in YPG), while Bryce is currently 19th.

Bryce just threw for 206 yards, his 3rd most yards in a game this year.

Drake has only thrown for less than 206 yards one time all year.  Against us, in a game they won by 29 points and he went 14/17 for 203 with 2 TDs and another rushing TD on top. 

Drake also only has 3 games this season having thrown less than 259 yards.

Bryce has 5 career games over 259 yards passing.

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22 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

It isnt 2019 anymore. Drake Maybe is the MVP favorite and hasn’t even thrown for 300 yards in a game. 

Drake Maye is 11-2 and leads the NFL in passing yards, completion % and is in the battle for TDs.  (he doesn't have a single game under 200).  On pace for 4400 which would have put him right outside the top 5 in 2019.  A good game here or there and he would be top 5 back then. 

now they get an extra game now but the dude is airing it out......but you can only do so much when you win. 

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