Give Legette another season?

[CRA]

15 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We have speed in the room. We need skill in the room. All our "fast" guys are super low on skill.

Skill beats speed 95% of the time.

Horn really is probably too small to be your speed. He would have to get more open than NFL open on deep plays if they ever tried it 

[kungfoodude]

Just now, CRA said:

Horn really is probably too small to be your speed. He would have to get more open than NFL open on deep plays if they ever tried it 

Tyreek Hill is small. It's about the ability to use the skills you have to get open and utilizing that speed. Horn has zero physical limitations in that regard. 

Is he skilled enough and dedicated enough to do so? To be determined.

I will say that they don't seem to view him as a legit WR, which is perplexing. Especially since they view XL as one, despite the mountainous amounts of evidence otherwise.

[CRA]

24 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Tyreek Hill is small. It's about the ability to use the skills you have to get open and utilizing that speed. Horn has zero physical limitations in that regard. 

Is he skilled enough and dedicated enough to do so? To be determined.

I will say that they don't seem to view him as a legit WR, which is perplexing. Especially since they view XL as one, despite the mountainous amounts of evidence otherwise.

Hill is also built for contact, he just happens to be short.   Sort the Kyler vs Bryce scenario 

Horn short and small.   Thats gonna impact ability down the sideline IMO and all sorts of areas 

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Hill is also built for contact, he just happens to be short.   Sort the Kyler vs Bryce scenario 

Horn short and small.  

Yes but that doesn't prohibit you from being a very effective player. It can mean that you will be played differently in coverage to limit you but that's still going to have skill and usage elements that can nullify it.

Point being that I am never going to get overly caught up on the "too small" narrative if the player has elite attributes that are greater than those physical limitations.

That's the issue with Bryce. All of the supposed "elite" attributes turned out to be vaporware. So now you get left with a small, physically limited player that has little in the way of skills. Nightmare scenario.

Horn is both fast and quick. Yes he is slight but if he were elite in other aspects(vision, route running, hand fighting, hand eye coordination, etc) that would be very much less significant. 

 

[bythenbrs]

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

We have speed in the room. We need skill in the room. All our "fast" guys are super low on skill.

Skill beats speed 95% of the time.

You misspelled Ladd.  If only he was available when we picked XL, how our WR room would look different.  [sigh]

[uncfan888]

XL snaps are declining and he started taking special teams snaps. The coaches know he's a liability 

Edited 12 minutes ago by uncfan888

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, bythenbrs said:

You misspelled Ladd.  If only he was available when we picked XL, how our WR room would look different.  [sigh]

That's a very obvious example because we so clearly made the wrong choice.

But it works perfectly here and is a cautionary tale of why you never take physical attributes with low skill level over extremely high skill level with lesser physical attributes.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

XL snaps are declining and he started taking special teams snaps. The coaches know he's a liability 

It took them long enough. It was pretty evident after last season he was a bust. He has literally done nothing but continue to hammer that home all season long.