So do we really want to win?

[chknwing]

progress is progress.  I'll take being at the cusp of winning the division over everything else from the past few years.  Lets live in the moment.  Tommorrow will handle itself. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, uncfan888 said:

Afc north is in the same boat as us but nobody even talks about them. Only thing the pundits complain about is the nfc south 

I think the focus is on the NFC South because the two teams contending for the title are the two teams absolutely floundering down the stretch. The Falcons and Saints are clearly better teams right now than us and the Bucs but it is what it is.

[SmokinwithWilly]

4 minutes ago, chknwing said:

progress is progress.  I'll take being at the cusp of winning the division over everything else from the past few years.  Lets live in the moment.  Tommorrow will handle itself. 

But we weren't at the cusp of winning the division because we were good. This division is bad, and reality looks like if Shough had been starting the season instead of Rattler, NO would be winning this one. It's like us "winning" the division at 7-9. How can you win a division without a winning record? 

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think the focus is on the NFC South because the two teams contending for the title are the two teams absolutely floundering down the stretch. The Falcons and Saints are clearly better teams right now than us and the Bucs but it is what it is.

I'll tune in to root against Aaron Rodgers.  AFCN still has that.  Plus I like Lamar/Henry. 

I don't think non-Panther/Buc fans are going to give a rip about us. 

[PghPanther]

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

the Panthers are the Duke Blue Devils.  Only the NFL hasn't' figured out how to exclude people yet

uhh...........I'd say make that the Duke Blue Devil Cheerleaders.............

[chknwing]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

But we weren't at the cusp of winning the division because we were good. This division is bad, and reality looks like if Shough had been starting the season instead of Rattler, NO would be winning this one. It's like us "winning" the division at 7-9. How can you win a division without a winning record? 

[Jaxel]

I absolutely want to win. You dont create a "winning culture" by losing for draft picks. 

[toldozer]

Yes, the rest of the team needs to feel success and losing isn't going to give us any better of a chance to fix the most glaring weakness. We're going to have to get lucky like the niners to fix our biggest issue

[toldozer]

33 minutes ago, Ornias said:

I want to win, it has been too long. However I am not really interested in noodle armed Bryce anymore. Winning the division will guarantee we are stuck with him for 2 more years though. 

Disagree. Dan and Dave would have to be braindead to think he's going to win the team a Superbowl. He's going to be the starter next year regardless of if they make the playoffs or not. Also there is definitely an argument that getting blown out in the playoffs would speed up the replacement clock more than a close loss to a bad Tampa team anyway.

[jfra78]

We made progress, getting a division title in name only means nothing.  I've never been a lose for draft picks guy but winning NFC South feels like a hollow victory.  But it will be our luck to win it and get bounced bad in the 1st round

[AggieLean]

We’re in too deep now. I want to win and get in. 
 

Im already expecting next year to be a down year with that first place schedule. Maybe after that embarrassment, we’ll see real changes 

[NAS]

11 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

I absolutely want to win. You dont create a "winning culture" by losing for draft picks. 

No you do it by taking a knee to lose the game

[*FreeFua*]

1 minute ago, AggieLean said:

We’re in too deep now. I want to win and get in. 
 

Im already expecting next year to be a down year with that first place schedule. Maybe after that embarrassment, we’ll see real changes 

I’ve been pro tank for so long that I forgot what it’s like to be able to watch meaningful games in December and it’s been fun

Expectations were 7-8 wins this year and now we have a shot at a playoff game. Regardless Saturday is essentially a playoff game and it’s been fun. 

Day 1 fans realize how far and few between these playoff games can be so might as well enjoy/root for it when we can. Who knows when the next time will be

[*FreeFua*]

1 minute ago, NAS said:

No you do it by taking a knee to lose the game

Stop.

our offense did nothing all day and throwing the ball downfield in obvious passing situations is leaving the QB vulnerable and WR’s open to taking some big shots. A late touchdown changes absolutely nothing. 

I couldn’t even imagine what people would be saying if someone like TMac or Coker got hurt on a meaningless play on that final drive