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13 minutes ago, rodeo said:

One thing I hope the whole BY and CJ thing leads to is the return of drafting QBs and letting them sit and learn a couple years as back-ups. Cam and that era of super rookie changed the game and we can't expect everybody coming in to be NFL ready. I think keeping Darnold and drafting BY or CJ to sit behind him til 2026 would have had monumentally better results.

Front offices fold to media pressure and QB controversies now. Nobody is will to do what the Packers did with Rogers and just say fug you were starting Favre until he's ready to commit full time to welfare fraud.

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10 minutes ago, rodeo said:

One thing I hope the whole BY and CJ thing leads to is the return of drafting QBs and letting them sit and learn a couple years as back-ups. Cam and that era of super rookie changed the game and we can't expect everybody coming in to be NFL ready. I think keeping Darnold and drafting BY or CJ to sit behind him til 2026 would have had monumentally better results.

Front offices fold to media pressure and QB controversies now. Nobody is will to do what the Packers did with Rogers and just say fug you were starting Favre until he's ready to commit full time to welfare fraud.

It's only going to get worse with NIL and transfers. These QBs aren't NFL ready and they need to sit. I think if we see them sitting the first year or 2 after being drafted, it will change the QB NIL situation as well. 

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On 1/19/2026 at 12:08 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Hindsight being 20/20, we just went all in on the wrong QB class. We would've been far better off investing all those assets we spent elsewhere.

This really should be the ultimate conclusion from all of this.

Waiting one more year and basically you couldn't miss on a QB from the options of Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake May, Bo Nix. Maybe McCarthy and Penix aren't that great but neither of them have gotten much playtime generally speaking due to injury. 

The 24 QB draft class could be the best one since 1983 with Elway, Marino, and Kelley. 

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That trade up was the stupidest, most impatient thing the Panthers could have done. Neither one of those players was ever going to be worth that kind of investment. 

I’m not sure any player is.

Icing on the cake was.. you draft a QB and trade away the only real Wr weapon you had. It was as opposite of smart as there ever could be. fuging idiots.

And to cement the fact that they are idiots, they went with a weak armed undeveloped physical outlier, of historical proportions. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, strato said:

And to cement the fact that they are idiots, they went with a weak armed undeveloped physical outlier, of historical proportions.

The historical physical outlier thing was really perplexing then and is even moreso now. I don't want it to be true but with the way Tepper treated Newton on his way out the door the first time and how bitter that debacle became I think it was motivated in some way by a need to try and go in a direction from top to bottom the complete opposite of Cam Newton so that they could put him in the rearview. Now I know some people will say that sounds crazy but we know that Tepper is an extremely arrogant individual. Cam's shadow has and still does loom quite large. All along Tepper's been huffing his own farts thinking because he has been massively successful financially he could be successful running a football team. He wanted Bryce Young to be the polar opposite. No longer outspoken and outwardly confident and flashy. Instead mild mannered quiet humble and able to blend in with everyone else. He got what he wanted.

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10 minutes ago, frankw said:

The historical physical outlier thing was really perplexing then and is even moreso now. I don't want it to be true but with the way Tepper treated Newton on his way out the door the first time and how bitter that debacle became I think it was motivated in some way by a need to try and go in a direction from top to bottom the complete opposite of Cam Newton so that they could put him in the rearview. Now I know some people will say that sounds crazy but we know that Tepper is an extremely arrogant individual. Cam's shadow has and still does loom quite large. All along Tepper's been huffing his own farts thinking because he has been massively successful financially he could be successful running a football team. He wanted Bryce Young to be the polar opposite. No longer outspoken and outwardly confident and flashy. Instead mild mannered quiet humble and able to blend in with everyone else. He got what he wanted.

You can count me among those who don’t buy into it being about Cam.
It was just so much Bryce hype and blind acceptance of the narrative.
 

It was a Psyop. Bryce did well in places this year but he should never ever ever have been the 1.1. 

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1 minute ago, strato said:

You can count me among those who don’t buy into it being about Cam.
It was just so much Bryce hype and blind acceptance of the narrative.
 

It was a Psyop. Bryce did well in places this year but he should never ever ever have been the 1.1. 

I can understand that but you also have to acknowledge that under the Tepper's this team has prioritized marketability almost to a fault even sometimes over actual intangibles. I mean look at Xavier Legette. And the perception of BY's marketability from the viewpoint of the Tepper's was sky high.

As far as the hype yeah that machine exists because of Alabama. Safe to say though after Tua Mac Jones and Bryce Young that tide has turned. You'll be hard pressed to see franchises considering hinging a #1 pick on an Alabama QB again.

From here I just hope we don't drag this out any further. Bryce Young needs to lead this team to a playoff berth and a convincing playoff win if we are to even remotely consider a long term contract extension.

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