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All QBs need weapons and a decent OL.  Bryce didn't have it his rookie year and now the Texans have gutted their OL to make their defense elite.  Throw in CJ's only weapon, Nico, being out and yeah it's though to play well through all of that.  

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I posted this in another thread but it's relevant here

Stroud is not a bad guy. He had a great rookie season but he hasn't been the same since. And the last 2 weeks he has completely imploded and just looks beaten. The defense has carried that team. 

Young had one of the worst rookie seasons in one of the worst environments in recent memory. Last year we also had a record breaking bad def. He has improved and in his lone playoff game he had one of the best games of the season. 

Year 1 it was stroud no doubt over young

Year 2 it was still stroud miles ahead but young was getting better after the benching

Year 3 it might be a tie- after the playoffs Bryce might be in the lead. 

I am not rooting against stroud, in fact I've been rooting for him. I want both to succeed. But stroud is seeing ghosts and as of right now if I had to choose between all the qbs chosen in that draft.... Bryce would be my #1 ( but definitely not by a landslide- he still has tons to prove and 2 years to do it)

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The 8ish months between a seasons end and the start of the next one are for one thing and one thing only. Hope. BY was the right pick and will lead us to a Super Bowl. 

 

Ill be realistic again once we roll around to September 10th or so.

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38 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

All QBs need weapons and a decent OL.  Bryce didn't have it his rookie year and now the Texans have gutted their OL to make their defense elite.  Throw in CJ's only weapon, Nico, being out and yeah it's though to play well through all of that.  

Yeah but they’re not asking him to carry the offense. Just go take care of the ball and the defense wins the game. He threw 4 picks in the first half lol

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Bryce has never had what CJ had in any of his 3 years. Just this year best defense we've seen in a while + Nico Collins. We will never know for sure, but it damn well seems Bryce can do more with less. 

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57 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

All QBs need weapons and a decent OL.  Bryce didn't have it his rookie year and now the Texans have gutted their OL to make their defense elite.  Throw in CJ's only weapon, Nico, being out and yeah it's though to play well through all of that.  

The Texans have done so much to try and surround CJ. They signed Diggs last year. Dell gets hurt so they trade for Kirk this past year. They drafted Higgins (who many had as a 1st rounder) and Noel (many here wanted) and still had Hutchinson

The fact is CJ had a pretty easy his rookie season. Clean pockets. Guys running open deep. Slowik was in his bag. Then the wheels fell off. CJ didn’t respond well to Slowik’s hard coaching. Slowik gets canned. 

I don’t think there’s been a massive regression I just think things are a lot less easy now and CJ is having to actually think a bit on his own. Which is where the problems begin. CJ has some Sam Darnold to him. He can make every throw with ease but when there’s pressure they tend to do dumb stuff. In 2023 there was a lot less pressure and thinking so CJ balled out much like Sam did in Minnesota or even in Seattle. They’re both very very dependant on coaching/situation

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