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Official Carolina Huddle Super Bowl LX Thread

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3 minutes ago, chbright said:

honestly, seattle did adapt on offense with walker for bits. and Sam made some of the throws. look he was pressured a bunch and missed some he would love to have back, but he didn't put them in turnover city. even without the best WR in the game today for stretches. 

pats refused to go with their own home run guy in henderson in the playoffs and it bit them. he was their top big play guy for a ton of games.

I was specifically talking about McDaniels and the Pats offense. They didn't adjust to poo.

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24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It wasn't the coverage, it was the pass rush scheme. Zone defense behind a dominant pass rush has always been a recipe for great D. That was what the original Seattle Legion of Boom was built around. The overloaded the left side of the Pats OL all night long knowing those rookies wouldn't be able to handle it. And just like Shula in SB50, McDaniels refused to adjust to it. Just like Shula, he just stuck his head in the sand and pretended that somehow it would just magically start working out at some point.

I watched the scheme a few stunts and pulls occasionally but it wasnt rocket science, the pats line has been there acchiles heel all year, this game played out almost exactly as I expected.

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10 minutes ago, hepcat said:

The only way is if Drake just doesn’t want to be on the Patriots long term. He’s a Charlotte kid, he married his middle school sweetheart. If the Panthers were ever a real opportunity for him I have to assume he’d also want to make that happen. Would take another 3 years minimum. 

And two years of franchise tags if he stays a top QB. 
 

It!s a nice thought though. 

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4 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

I watched the scheme a few stunts and pulls occasionally but it wasnt rocket science, the pats line has been there acchiles heel all year, this game played out almost exactly as I expected.

None of it is rocket science. No one is doing anything different in the game of football at this point. It's about getting good players and putting them in a position to succeed. Basically, don't be Mike Shula in SB50 or Josh McDaniels in SB60.

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Maye had a not so good run in the playoffs, but got bailed out by a good defense and some terrible play from the opposing qb.  More turnovers than td's for the entirety of the playoffs.  He is young and should improve, but is going to have to clean up the turnovers to truly become elite.  

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26 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Maye had a not so good run in the playoffs, but got bailed out by a good defense and some terrible play from the opposing qb.  More turnovers than td's for the entirety of the playoffs.  He is young and should improve, but is going to have to clean up the turnovers to truly become elite.  

From where they were one year ago to now, pretty incredible. I mean, say what you want about Vrabel he is no Jerrod Mayo. 

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1 minute ago, jopie87 said:

It took Sam Darnold seven years to become an overnight success.

Just another 1st round QB that never paid off for the team that drafted them or traded for them.

It's been like this since the SB began. 36 QBs have now won the SB & only 13 of them have been 1st rounders winning with their original team.

Namath 1968, Griese 1972, Bradshaw 1974, McMahon 1985, Simms 1986, Aikman 1992, Elway 1997, Roethlisberger 2005, P.Manning 2006, E.Manning 2007, Rodgers 2010, Flacco 2012, & Mahomes 2019.

Only 3 have taken longer than 5 seasons as the starter to win a SB. 

4  6  5  4  6  4  15  2  9  4  3  5  2 [the years it takes for these 1st round QBs]

5  1  4  1  3  1  1  2  3  4  [10 of the 36 have won a chip with their 1st team that haven't been drafted in the 1st round. These are the years it took them as a starter]

What stands out? Only 2 of these QBs have lost their first championship appearance. Elway took 4 years as a 1st rounder & Hurts took 2 years as a 2nd rounder.

Of the 10 non-1st round QBs, 2 are 2nd rounders, 3 are 3rd rounders, 5 are 6th rounders or later.

Please stop wasting time on drafting 1st round QBs with such a high failure rate.

The remaining 13 QBs are traded or free agent signings. Stafford, Favre, Young, Williams and Dawson are the 5 trades.

Peyton Manning & Tom Brady also won for teams as free agents on a short stay as well as being drafted.

The lesson here is don't waste your franchise on farming up 1st rounders for the league, and steer clear of trading for a franchise QB.

Stick to finding that championship QB by drafting them outside of the 1st round or through free agency.

 

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