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Mike Kaye: LB Devin Lloyd could be a realistic possibility


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10 hours ago, strato said:

I hear you but yeah like you say, above average. His numbers were good. You’d think it would be a no brainer.
Anyhow… I guess the new staff is also fine with him walking? 
 

I hope if we sign him there isn’t some secret issue of his that led to him not being valued.  

The new Jags' staff would like to re-sign Lloyd, they just can't afford him. That's the reality. Teams can't afford players that outplay their contracts every year. That's all this is. 

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54 minutes ago, TD alt said:

The new Jags' staff would like to re-sign Lloyd, they just can't afford him. That's the reality. Teams can't afford players that outplay their contracts every year. That's all this is. 

Sounds good then. See that’s what paying 60 mil to your QB will do for you.  

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On 2/19/2026 at 8:04 AM, PanthersNCSU said:

Getting a pass rush with 4 is the main priority on defense, but I'll happily take Lloyd to fix ILB.  

A Lloyd and Chenal double dip in FA, and then devoting all high draft picks to the edges and fat men would make me happy though. 

Hey, they're not all fat.

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14 hours ago, strato said:

I hear you but yeah like you say, above average. His numbers were good. You’d think it would be a no brainer.
Anyhow… I guess the new staff is also fine with him walking? 
 

I hope if we sign him there isn’t some secret issue of his that led to him not being valued.  

The tag for '26 is 28M. No way they tag him.  He is projected to be worth around 60M for 3 years so they could still try to sign him on an extension for about that amount: JagsWire

 

As someone else mentioned, the tag average factors in outside linebackers, aka, edge rushers, in the line backer formula.  If they would distinguish between olb and ilb, the ilb would get a lot less. 

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22 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

The tag for '26 is 28M. No way they tag him.  He is projected to be worth around 60M for 3 years so they could still try to sign him on an extension for about that amount: JagsWire

 

As someone else mentioned, the tag average factors in outside linebackers, aka, edge rushers, in the line backer formula.  If they would distinguish between olb and ilb, the ilb would get a lot less. 

its almost if that big qb contract is tethering the team down

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39 minutes ago, rebelrouser said:

The tag for '26 is 28M. No way they tag him.  He is projected to be worth around 60M for 3 years so they could still try to sign him on an extension for about that amount: JagsWire

 

As someone else mentioned, the tag average factors in outside linebackers, aka, edge rushers, in the line backer formula.  If they would distinguish between olb and ilb, the ilb would get a lot less. 

Yeah. They do the same thing with OL, all OL positions are included and that is why Ravens can’t or won’t tag Linderbaum - 28mil for a C.  
 

And they could sign him but I think maybe his mindset for the last year is make them regret not having enough faith in him to pick up his 5th year. 
 

I am not sure we should pay a ILB 20 million either.  I guess if there is a rookie next to him, you can rationalize it financially.  

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Depending on what the asking price is we should inquire but if this FO is going to succeed we need to hit on one in the draft. This team was built on linebackers. If all we can do is overpay free agents to assemble a decent LB room we might as well clean house.

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On 2/22/2026 at 11:24 AM, mrcompletely11 said:

I really hope they don't go nuts and do a bunch of restructuring 

honestly since Brandt Tillis got here, they have not done much restructuring outside a couple lower paid players. Brandt said he learnt how the NFL views contracts by working at the NFL.

I've always maintained restructuring is fine, so long your have a winning team/great QB/great ______ . Then it makes sense, not with a 5 max winner like Panthers were for years. You got to win or have a highly talented group that odds are they will make noise in the playoffs. 

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54 minutes ago, Basbear said:

honestly since Brandt Tillis got here, they have not done much restructuring outside a couple lower paid players. Brandt said he learnt how the NFL views contracts by working at the NFL.

I've always maintained restructuring is fine, so long your have a winning team/great QB/great ______ . Then it makes sense, not with a 5 max winner like Panthers were for years. You got to win or have a highly talented group that odds are they will make noise in the playoffs. 

The moton one was pretty egregious, I thought we were done gifting out money

 

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

The moton one was pretty egregious, I thought we were done gifting out money

 

 

I think Fitterer got us into that pickle. I don’t remember exactly but Moton’s cap hit before that last restructure was really out of whack.

There wasn’t much to do except make the best of it. 

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On 2/22/2026 at 8:15 PM, strato said:

Okay that is higher than I thought. The money has gone crazy.
 

 I was talking about the cost of his 5th year option probably not being that much. Which I guess just 12 months ago they declined.  But that shouldn’t have been all that much. 

They are in the red in terms of cap space.  Could be that they like him, but not as much as they do others.  

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Draft Rodriquez in the second, grab the best OT or Edge in the first. There's a lot out there in free agency right now, but we need to maybe be investing in C and perhaps another OT, perhaps our own guys that are headed that way if we can get a decent discount for them.

 

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12 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Draft Rodriquez in the second, grab the best OT or Edge in the first. 

This is the way. I think we make a run at Lloyd and/or Chubb, double down in someway with Rodriguez as our target in the 2nd. The way Kaye has been talking, if Lloyd wants to be a Panther he will be. 

Give me Lloyd and Rodriguez and all of a sudden the middle of the field becomes a potential strength again. 

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