Panthers signing WR John Metchie

[PleaseCutStewart]

Guessing it's a cheap deal. If I recall from before he was drafted, he supposedly ran a good route tree in college, but lacked athleticism to separate against good corners.

Hopefully he can be a guy that runs the intermediate routes (curl, comeback, deep in, deep out) and can move the chains for us when needed.

[tukafan21]

6 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Lol seriously I couldn’t believe the first handful of replies

Metchie isn’t even guaranteed a roster spot. He’ll be battling with Horn and Moore during camp

I think that's the problem we have with it.

If we're bringing in WRs, they should be a clear cut #3 WR as our starting slot, or they should be a mid round draft pick to see if they can become that guy for us.

Signing a FA like this for that spot just seems odd.  Then personally, I don't like the previous connection with Bryce for a player of this talent level, as I'm afraid Bryce will want to rely on him more than he should, and we can't have anything hindering Bryce this year if he has any chance at panning out (which again, I still don't think can happen, but that's a different discussion).

This feels like a signing due to the Bryce connection, but you make that in year 1 or 2, not going into year 4 when said WR hasn't panned out so far either.

Edited 2 hours ago by tukafan21

[PleaseCutStewart]

21 minutes ago, PanthersNCSU said:

Contract may tell the story on whether or not we have plans for him to make the team, but we're quickly losing space in the #4/5 WR spot.

XL *should* be the #3. But he's just as likely to be shipped out if Dan can give up on him. Might already be out the door come draft day. 

Horn *should* make the team, but I don't know if the staff actually values him. I'd be pissed if they gave up on him this quick, but dunno.

Moore and Tremayne just seem like locks based on the coaching staff, special teams, etc. 

Without throwing a draft pick or UDFA camp stud into the mix, I think XL, Horn, and Metchie are fighting for the last roster spot/jersey on game days. 

We probably carry 6 receivers.

Locks: Tet, Coker

Likely: XL, Tremayne

Battle for last 2 spots: Metchie, Horn, Moore (unless XL is traded)

[MHS831]

I don't see this WR on  1-year deal causing us to cut a first round pick that we drafted with knowledge that he was very raw.  On any WR corps, there is always one guy who is injured.

Tremayne may be the odd man out--PS until needed.

TMAC, Coker, XL, Metchie, Horn, Tremayne

I think our draft intentions are becoming more clear.  T, S, DT, LB, TE, C.  Heard it here first.

[CarolinaLivin]

1. Wanted to add to the WR room. Added a low risk possible high reward option.

2. XL is not replaced by this move.

Edited 2 hours ago by CarolinaLivin

[tukafan21]

1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

We probably carry 6 receivers.

Locks: Tet, Coker

Likely: XL, Tremayne

Battle for last 2 spots: Metchie, Horn, Moore (unless XL is traded)

Beyond the locks, that's so gross, there is no reason Tremayne should be our 3rd (as I'm over XL and he shouldn't be higher than #4 on our depth chart this year), just no.

It's why I was really hoping we'd just get rid of XL for whatever the best draft pick we can get for him is.  Then sign a true quick twitch guy to be our slot WR, and even then, still hope that Horn Jr might take that spot from them in camp anyways and turn that FA signing into our #4, with Moore as a special teamer who gets a jersey and then Tremayne as that last project.

[TD alt]

1 minute ago, countryboi said:

You guys are overthinking this. John Metchie is just a depth piece, He here to create competition for XL, Jimmy Horn Jr., and David Moore. The team isn't going to hold off on making other receiver moves just because Metchie is on the roster.

I tend to think that you're right, but fans can hope. 

Metchie hasn't actually translated so far to the NFL for reasons we can point to, and others we probably cannot. This will probably be his best opportunity to stick and raise his value, obviously because of past chemistry with Young, but I don't think that fans can count on it based upon what he's done so far in the league. It would seem that he would've been given that opportunity in Houston, but they not only drafted one, but two receivers. Tells you how they valued him. Philly didn't blink when they traded him to the Jets who refused to tender him, so no one has really valued what he brings--not really. Moreover, Bryce is in the big boy leagues, now. He doesn't have time for sentimentality when it comes to security blankets. T-Mac and Coker are established.  That being said, chemistry can cause explosions under the proper circumstances, but I wouldn't count on Metchie being anything more than a sub-explosion at best.

[TheSpecialJuan]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I don't see this WR on  1-year deal causing us to cut a first round pick that we drafted with knowledge that he was very raw.  On any WR corps, there is always one guy who is injured.

Tremayne may be the odd man out--PS until needed.

TMAC, Coker, XL, Metchie, Horn, Tremayne

I think our draft intentions are becoming more clear.  T, S, DT, LB, TE, C.  Heard it here first.

spot on

[countryboi]

18 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Moore is a special teamer outside of injuries above him and there is zero reason to bring in a depth piece who MIGHT create competition for XL and Horn Jr.

Either bring in someone clearly better than them to replace them, or you roll with the guys on rookie contracts and see if they can become a useful player.

If you wanted depth who MIGHT turn into competition for those guys, then draft someone somewhere in Rounds 3-5, as that's a great spot to find those quick twitch slot WRs.

Just don't love depth signings who have a history with our QB when we have 5 WRs who are already all but on the 53 man roster unless they get traded (like XL).

I mean I agree but I also dont hate it, he is clearly talented. the dream is he can grow in to that slot role but he hasnt been very good. 

[Chief Keek]

Nothing wrong with kicking the tires, if any QB knows his strengths it should be Bryce.

[Candler Cat]

bad move if he asks what the bear is doing

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, TD alt said:

Moreover, Bryce is in the big boy leagues, now. He doesn't have time for sentimentality when it comes to security blankets. T-Mac and Coker are established.  That being said, chemistry can cause explosions under the proper circumstances, but I wouldn't count on Metchie being anything more than a sub-explosion at best.

This is exactly what concerns me about this move.

Has Bryce really shown you enough for you to think he won't have that sentimentality when the pass rush is coming down on him?

He's shown me the exact opposite, that in those situations, he's goes to what's most comfortable to him and not what is the best football decision.  And putting a guy on the team who was one of his main WRs the year he won the Heisman scares me.

This is a huge year for Bryce and the team, combined with it being a big year of growth for both T-Mac and Coker.  We don't need them losing potential targets to a player who doesn't deserve them based on their abilities.

[tukafan21]

5 minutes ago, countryboi said:

I mean I agree but I also dont hate it, he is clearly talented. the dream is he can grow in to that slot role but he hasnt been very good. 

Is he?

I wanted him a few years ago because I thought he was talented as well.  But 686 yards in 3 seasons and been traded twice in the last 7 months, doesn't really scream "talented player" any more.

[TD alt]

1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

This is exactly what concerns me about this move.

Has Bryce really shown you enough for you to think he won't have that sentimentality when the pass rush is coming down on him?

He's shown me the exact opposite, that in those situations, he's goes to what's most comfortable to him and not what is the best football decision.  And putting a guy on the team who was one of his main WRs the year he won the Heisman scares me.

This is a huge year for Bryce and the team, combined with it being a big year of growth for both T-Mac and Coker.  We don't need them losing potential targets to a player who doesn't deserve them based on their abilities.

Well, we'll see. I think that's kinda preposterous though. Bryce is a three year vet. The thing that will settle him down is stout O-line play and receivers that he can count on.