Trade: Panthers are trading veteran QB Andy Dalton to the Philadelphia Eagles in exchange for a 2027 seventh-round pick, per sources.

[SmokinwithWilly]

15 hours ago, ClawOn said:

A number of gurus here are convinced Howell is a Pro Bowler just waiting for an opportunity. If only Roseman had an eye for talent...

Nah. We just recognize that he has more potential than Dalton or Pickett. Do I think he could come in and potentially push Bryce. Sure. Not because he's a QB god but because Bryce really is that bad as a starting QB. 

[WUnderhill]

59 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Nah. We just recognize that he has more potential than Dalton or Pickett. Do I think he could come in and potentially push Bryce. Sure. Not because he's a QB god but because Bryce really is that bad as a starting QB. 

He’s being paid commensurate with names such as Sam Ehlinger, Nick Mullens, Tommy Devito, and Drew Lock (who he couldn’t beat for a backup spot) to compete with Joe Milton for a chance just to hold a clipboard in Dallas. Every team who has employed him has parted with him, in all cases since Washington for less than they paid to acquire him. Sorry, but 32 teams think he is a complete scrub after multiple teams having him in their programs and giving him a chance to beat out their backups. I think most people would be fine kicking the tires for whatever, it’s just that there are a number of posters having a conniption about signing Kenny Pickett and saying the team needs to sign names such as Sam Howell or Trey Lance to prove they are serious about improving QB play. It just makes no sense.

[WUnderhill]

There is one QB on the Sam Darnold track though, if there is one: Justin Fields. Top 10(ish) pick drafted to a bad situation, 3 years on the team that drafted them then traded to another bad situation, spend 2 more seasons in bad qb situations, then goes to a team with a QB guru coach and WB friendly offense to be a backup. The equivalent of Darnold’s Minnesota season would be next season for Fields. We’ll see.

[MHS831]

People take a young guy whose team was surrounded by more talent that the opposition 95% of the time in college, put him on a bad NFL team in his early 20s, and suddenly, he sucks.  People develop at different rates.  My experience is that success is usually determined by the system of support as much as anything else.  When the coaches are desperate, the team is underqualified, and the fan base is brutally impatient and critical, I can see a player failing to reach expectations.