Severe, sweeping penalties under consideration in Saints bounty case

[Jangler]

The NFL is watching Roger.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/james-harrison-eager-to-see-the-nfls-punishment-for-the-saints/

The NFL has propped up the Saints for 5 years. They have to come down hard...don't they?

I wonder if Harrison would quit if he thought the punishment was not harsh enough?

[Snake]

The NFL is watching Roger.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/05/james-harrison-eager-to-see-the-nfls-punishment-for-the-saints/

This is why he will have to come down hard. If he does not teams will be head hunting all around the league.

[ed bell]

cheap shot scott fujita immediately comes to mind

Involved: http://http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/3/4/2845274/scott-fujita-saints-bounty-investigation-gregg-williams

[Cary Kollins]

A person familiar with the deliberations said Sunday the NFL is considering severe, sweeping disciplinary measures in the New Orleans Saints’ bounty case that could include lengthy suspensions of Coach Sean Payton, General Manager Mickey Loomis, former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams and player leaders of the scheme according to Mark Maske of the Washington Post.

The person, speaking on the condition of anonymity because NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has not made final decisions on penalties, said some of the sanctions could be “unprecedented.” Payton and Loomis face discipline for failing to halt the practice of paying players for big hits on opponents. The bounty system was administered by Williams and involved 22 to 27 players, according to an NFL investigation revealed Friday.

The suspensions under consideration are a half-season or longer in some cases, the person said. Several other people in the sport said they expect Williams, now the defensive coordinator of the St. Louis Rams, to be punished severely.

People with knowledge of the deliberations cautioned that Goodell has yet to make final determinations in the Saints case and that some matters remained subject to change. Goodell is seeking advice on disciplinary action from the NFL Players Association, players and others, those people said.

[bleys]

Payton's system (minus the vicodine) was ran by that QB coach last season. Tney shouldnt miss much on offense.

did that include Payton away from game planning, etc? I would imagine a suspension will dictate absolutely no team involvement for half a season and could be a major factor regardless...

[Mr. Scot]

LOL, Saints fans still think "every team does this"... uh, no they don't.

Aaaah yes, the universal excuse for people who get caught :rolleyes:

Get some new material, ya nimrods.

Funny that guys like Kris Jenkins and Rex Ryan have come out and said "no, not everybody does it".

[R0CKnR0LLA]

yeah i'm pretty sure every team has guys popping vicodin like they're tic tacs and players intentionally trying to ruin the careers of 3 HoF QBs for a few extra bucks. WHY OH WHY CANT THE SAINTS CATCH A BREAK

[Brooklyn Bully]

I'm sure many teams do something similar, but guess what, Aints... no one else got caught. When you get caught, you pay the price. Shut up and take your punishment like a man.

[Darth Biscuit]

I'm sure many teams do something similar, but guess what, Aints... no one else got caught. When you get caught, you pay the price. Shut up and take your punishment like a man.

I would also bet that there are a percentage of NFL teams that do stuff like this... however, I would be surprised if there are many teams that do it to the level that the Saint's apparently took it to AND with coaches directly involved and orchestrating it.

Based on what's come out so far, sounds to me like Williams had a pretty elaborate scheme setup for running this "bounty program" at LEAST at the last three organizations he's worked with.

I'll say this also... it's one thing (even though it's all against NFL rules) to be rewarded for playing hard and making hard hits... it's something altogether different to reward players for intentionally trying to take out/hurt other players... that's hard core bush league bullsh*t right there.

[Lumps]

It's pretty demeaning when recent teams can win the super bowl via bounties or cheating (Patriots). Are the days of true winners over? Seems like something dirty is always going on with winning teams and its pathetic.

Just makes me think if everyone had a bounty system such as this is, would the Saints have really won anything? A lot of their finest moments were injuring players that were tearing up on them.

Taking away a super bowl from years ago would display NFL incompetence so I guess we can't do that. Just seems to influence the thought as long as you win the SB, it doesn't matter. People can always say Sean fuged up but he won a super bowl doing it, sad sad sad.

[Lumps]

As I suspected, no one gives a poo, take away their fuging ring.

"Yea, you know what? Totally worth it. Hand out the fines and suspensions. Hell, dock our draft picks. That's what you use draft picks for, to win the Super Bowl. We're just using them retroactively. If bounties got us the best night of my life then I'm completely fine with that. No regrets. "

"Agreed".

http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/skip-bayless-says-only-reason-saints-got-super-bowl-because-we-knocked-out-warner-favre-224569/

fuging dumb.

[Kettle]

Bush lost his Heisman for far less. I could see them losing their Lombardi.

[OneBadassCat]

Has a team ever been stripped of their title?

[rico6]

As I suspected, no one gives a poo, take away their fuging ring.

"Yea, you know what? Totally worth it. Hand out the fines and suspensions. Hell, dock our draft picks. That's what you use draft picks for, to win the Super Bowl. We're just using them retroactively. If bounties got us the best night of my life then I'm completely fine with that. No regrets. "

"Agreed".

http://saintsreport.com/forums/f2/skip-bayless-says-only-reason-saints-got-super-bowl-because-we-knocked-out-warner-favre-224569/

fuging dumb.

What a fuging sheep following. Would love to see what they'd do if Brees said it was "cool" to jump off bridges.