ESPN Insider hit piece: Panthers aren't playoff contenders. Need someone with ESPN Insider.

[Doc Holiday]

Wow, there is being a delusional hater and then there is that.....

Did he not see the panther beat the patriots and 49'ers in back to back weeks, could he please explain to me how any team we will face going forward could be tougher then them??

[TheRumGone]

I think it is obvious we aren't an explosive offense....

But someone did a nice job the other day comparing us to an old Titan team lead by McNair and George. Sure we don't have the nice explosive stats......or pretty ones on offense. BUT....can you stop us from gaining 10 yards? End of the day that is all that matters

 

exactly. we are also lacking an explosive #1 reciever that would help those stats.

 

Cam is playing within the team. and that and our defense is why we are winning.

[CRA]

How many teams with a winning record has

NO beat?

Denver?

KC?

etc...

You can spin a lot of stuff if you want

[L-TownCat]

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7122234/nfl-why-mike-wallace-bigger-gamebreaker-calvin-johnson

 

Joyner makes a living coming up with sensationalist headlines and doing gymnastics to find stats that prove his point. 

 

He's the Dat Alice of ESPN?

[Guest Chico]

ESPN is trying too hard with all these analytical stats. It's just a freaking game, not wall street accounting.

[mav1234]

lol KC Joyner what a fuging surprise

[Peppers90 NC]

checking this off my bucket list, i love when someone can justifiably point out a 9-3 team on an 8 game win streak isn't a playoff contender.

[Fan01]

Ron said it a few weeks back. 

 

"Statistics lie and liars use statistics."

 

Another good one I've heard over the years is, "There are three kinds of lies.  Lies, damned lies and Statistics."

[mav1234]

Joyner doesn't watch games, because watching games biases one's use of  totally irrelevant and context-less stats.

[UNCrules2187]

Some of his other articles:

 

"Why the Cleveland Browns can make the playoffs" (this was written after Campbell took over)

"Why the Seattle Seahawks are a flawed powerhouse"

"Packers can still win without Aaron Rodgers"

 

[Peppers90 NC]

Ron said it a few weeks back. 

 

"Statistics lie and liars use statistics."

 

Another good one I've heard over the years is, "There are three kinds of lies.  Lies, damned lies and Statistics."

entire stains nation is a bunch of stat geeks... who doesnt remember 08?

[Peppers90 NC]

yea they beat the 9ers and Patriots in back-to-back weeks but......

[Wyank]

Coming soon

 

Panthers Won The Super Bowl, But Can They Repeat?

Looking over the numbers says no.  They are pretenders

 

by KC Joyner

[Montsta]

I'm all for saber metrics for baseball, where it is much more of a bunch of one on one battles than it is a team game. Some of the poo they are trying to out out for football is just silly.

So Cam throws for a million yards airing it out the last two seasons, and we go a combined 13-19. This year he takes what the defense gives and makes big plays when needed and we are 9-3 and it's a bad thing?

Holy hell that is awful logic.