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Sheldon Richardson "making" some noise. Says he'd go #1 in re-do

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Richardson is a legit Defensive Rookie of the Year candidateand, on Wednesday, he was asked where he believed he'd go if there were a draft re-do.

 

"Probably No. 1, most likely," Richardson said, via ESPNNewYork.com. "Kansas City? Yeah. I went into the draft thinking I'd be the No. 1 pick. I had a shot."

 

 

 

 

"Most definitely. I still think I'm 13, 12 picks late if you ask me. Just playing," Richardson joked. "It's all fun and games and I'm glad he's balling, too. Thirteen, 14 and now we're both going for defensive rookies of the year. Can't ask for much better than that."

 

 

He is kinda giving Star a little respect.

 

We are all a bunch of homers, so I know that some of us may have a hard time being objective, but why would Richardson get the honor as opposed to Star?  PFF showed Star's prowess in run stopping, but my contention has always been that sometimes a player's impact upon his team and the game can't be measured solely by stats. Star's impact has been prolific. What about Richardson? 

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Richardson reminds me of Kris Jenkins. While Star is Ngata.

 

Except both guys are a good 30-40+ pounds lighter than the guys you're comparing them to.  Maybe guys like Star and Richardson (but especially Star considering his run stuffing style) will show coaches and GMs that a guy doesn't have to be north of 320 to effectively hold the point of attack in the NFL.  Kris Jenkins has a much longer career playing at or around 310 than he had playing at 330 (okay, he was listed at 330 but you'd have to be insane to think that he wasn't over 350 for much of his career). I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't a couple of training camps where he showed up just a couple of cajun filet biscuits away from 400.

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Two different players playing the same position differently. It's hard to think of comparing two rookie DTs as an Apples and Oranges comparison, but it is. Richardson is an individual stat machine, which ultimately will probably win him the DROY. But the smart money would be on Star, who elevates the entire defense around him with his dominating and block-eating style of play.

 

If Sheldon had a shot at going number 1, then Star definitely did as well. However if you ask any GM, I doubt either a QB pressuring DT or a lane clogging run stopper DT would have a reasonable expectation to go number one overall. It's a position that just to many people think can be serviceable in the mid rounds. And I am inclined to agree that the drop off in talent between a top 10 pick and a mid-rounder is much steeper amongst the skill position players than a DT.

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Except both guys are a good 30-40+ pounds lighter than the guys you're comparing them to. Maybe guys like Star and Richardson (but especially Star considering his run stuffing style) will show coaches and GMs that a guy doesn't have to be north of 320 to effectively hold the point of attack in the NFL. Kris Jenkins has a much longer career playing at or around 310 than he had playing at 330 (okay, he was listed at 330 but you'd have to be insane to think that he wasn't over 350 for much of his career). I wouldn't be surprised if there weren't a couple of training camps where he showed up just a couple of cajun filet biscuits away from 400.

Jenkins actually weighed 360 in his last years

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Yeah, I hope people are intelligent enough to consider their positions when comparing the two. They're both DT's, but in different systems with different alignments and responsbilities.

 

I wasn't high on Richardson, guess I was wrong.

 

Richardson is playing very well in the Jets 3-4 defense.  I am still not conviced that he would have nearly the impact in our 4-3 defense that Star is having.

 

Both players got lucky that they were drafted into the right schemes to succeed.

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I wasn't high on Richardson, guess I was wrong.

 

I wasn't either.  But, mainly because of Star.  If you were to sit down with a blank sheet of paper to design the DT that we needed, you'd be hard pressed to create a better prospect for us than Star.  That's no knock on Richardson, it's just that Star was the perfect guy for us and he just happened to fall into our laps, in part because the Jets opted to take Richardson.

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