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I have predicted weeks ago that Morgan will extend Young 2-3 more years, further extending the agony and the ones that continue carrying water for Young will wonder why we havent won anything for the past decade.

I want to see you all do well if it doesn’t affect us.

What this suggests to me is how dumb it is to spend that much to draft a kid not ready for the league. If the rookie contract does nothing but make their learning years cheaper you aren’t getting the advantage you think you are there either.

We don't care

We’re not rivals in anyway in my opinion. I’m rooting for you guys to do well the rest of the way.

Just imagine nothing but screens to CMC all night long… because it’s coming. Defensively for us, this is a brutal matchup. Purdy is back and we’re facing an all world RB and TE, which just so happens to be the 2 positions our defense sucks at containing… and we have an almost nonexistent pass rush.

I've said it before, this is the first time since he's been in the league that he's had the same coaching staff/scheme for 2 consecutive seasons. I knew he'd be good. His second year he looked average/a little below average, but at no point did he look like a complete bust.

He hasn't earned the right to Dab yet. More games like against the dirty birds and then maybe.

Here’s a really good Sellers article if you have access to the Athletic. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6820722/2025/11/20/nfl-draft-2026-scouting-lanorris-sellers-film/?source=user_shared_article

Which is kind of funny considering how much less talent there is on the defensive side of the ball in comparison.

We can't regain the massive amount of resources we utlitized to obtain him. He is worth an infinitesimally small fraction of that now. So, the only positive outcome possible is for him to figure it out. We definitely need that to be the case. I don't believe it will happen as a guy that had Bryce #1 on my QB list. But I would damn sure be here for it.

'Total bust' is a bit dramatic. He was the middle of the road starter and now he is more like a top 10 LT.

I don't know the right answer, but the Panthers need to make the right decision because right or wrong it will affect the team for several years going forward.

Really? I thought at the worst after those 1st 2 seasons, he would be the LT version of Jeff Otah. I also still think many of his season 1 sacks allowed was because Bryce was taking like 10 step dropbacks in the pocket. His biggest weaknesses IMO were the false starts and holds. He has definitely cut down on those since year 2

Thing is we are not talking football we are talking Panthers football. So you being here is weird.

I think we need to draft offensive and defensive leaders in 2026. Picking around the middle of the pack, we should go with the best MLB in the draft. Get someone who can run the defense and hold his teammates accountable. Someone who can learn the defensive playbook quickly and have it built around them (and who knows if we will have the same DC next season). Then, grab a developmental QB in the second round. There are going to be good ones there and I agree that they need time to learn the NFL game, especially considering the whirlwind of coaching changes many of them see (or pursue) with the transfer portal. Maybe even specifically look for a QB that has spent their entire college career at one school (which might show how valuable they were to their own coach). But if those two are in doubt, just grab O-line or Edge. That's the classic easy choice.

I would be classified by Truthers as a Hater. But I will always say the best this to happen is for the kid to figure it out. I was smiling while watching Cam’s reaction

It's got to be Kooch at least until the deadline, then maybe management can FINALLY address the goalie position that through their stubbornness have wasted many good teams

Agreed, Starting with Hurney and going to Fitterer just put us further down the list. Very few starting caliber players. Many don't like Morgan but overall, I think he's done a great job bringing quality FA and drafting well. No GM is going to hit on every pick. That said I also think DM learns from his mistakes. Most importantly keeping our owner out of the decision making is part of the reason we are starting to climb out of the hole.

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Its too late for that. Time has run out. You dont give him a ext if he plays "decent". He played "decent" at the end of last year and look what happened.

I’m not necessarily advocating sticking with Bryce. His highs show the ability is there, but there’s enough bad film out there to doubt that he can consistently enough play at a high enough level. But this video from Brett Kollman is a pretty good argument to give it a bit more time, whether that be rolling with Bryce just next year or picking up his 5th year option (not extending him). The gist is that the structural (wider hashes) and rule (3 yd vs 1 yd thresholds for intelligible offensive lineman downfield penalties) differences in the college and NFL have led to wildly different play calling and scheme diets in college. There is much more shotgun and RPO calls in college and screen/quick throws. This simply doesn’t set up young QBs to be able to play under center, which is more preferred in the NFL due to RBs being able to more effectively run out of that formation. They don’t know how to do it and have to learn. Yes, the NFL has trended more toward college style offense in the last decade or so, but it isn’t that pronounced and is more out of necessity than desire. And on top of all that, they ask the young QBs to do all this learning with coaching and other personnel churn going on around them. Bad results lead to coaches getting fired and new ones with different ideas on scheme and footwork and different terminology and playbooks coming in. It makes it harder on those young QBs to learn. So we may drop Bryce for a young QB starter in the draft and be in a similar situation. With a QB who is going to take years to learn how to operate in an NFL style offense and will struggle along the way. So you have to weigh whether the struggles we see from Bryce are more due to this learning process vs solely physical limitations on his part. It’s almost undoubtedly a bit of both, but the answer to that question I think dictates your strategy at QB over the next few years. And of course, you have to consider what the alternatives available are. I’m neither a Bryce hater or a Bryce Stan and I don’t have an answer to that question. But I do fear that if we move on from him, unless it’s for an established player, we’re just in for continued frustration on the QB front because it’s going to take a few years for a college QB to develop (Drake Maye’s don’t grow on trees).

The defense has pulled that feat off this season though. Multiple times. offense has not had a single good first half all season. Only and good opening scripted drive paired with disappointing play. defense has been the actual unit you can measure real and consistent improvement IMO. Still holes and flaws to it that aren’t going away until new bodies get here but they really are the story of the season IMO

One thing about RB's and LB's is they are going to get hurt. It's inevitable. Having a fresh Chuba is not a bad thing. My only criticism of this entire situation is that I wish our staff would adjust personnel to matchup a little better. I think Chuba is a lot better than Rico against the stacked boxes we've seen the last two weeks. They are very different backs with very different strengths, and I love them both. Rico is so good at identifying the hole early, and hitting it full speed early. He's much better at breaking the big run. Chuba is a much more patient back, and finds 3 yards when there's nothing there better than Rico. It's in no way a criticism of either, but I think Chuba would have had more success than Rico the way the Saints and Falcons attacked us from a Defensive standpoint. When you put 9 in the box, often times there is no hole to attack.

Just poor roster management. The NFL out of all the professional leagues is set up for a team to rise from worse to first from one season to the next. So to go 7 seasons without a winning record you have to make some really poor choices in coaching hiring, and roster management.