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Still in for Rivera~

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I realize that I am no doubt in the minority for still believing in this coach.  I won't even say I am the 'silent majority'...but I believe in Ron.

 

Here is why:

I don't know if the play calling is his fault or Shula.  It seems to me that this is a critical area that needs to be better addressed.

Alot (everyone?) has jumped on him for his handling of playing for a field goal.  I will watch the game again - but what I saw was:

            A kicker that hasnt missed under 50 yards.  Close to automatic as you get.  Why NOT trust your kicker?

            As Cam says...hindsight is 50-50...   :)   Anyway...I didnt mind the play calling.  I think he would have been flambeyyed (s?) if they threw a pass and it was intercepted.

 

I remember last year.  Very well.  Many fans (right here) wasnt happy with Ron and the same old witch hunt was on until they started winning.  I refuse to believe he is not the same guy.

 

Consider- consider what we all know.  Handcuffed by the cap, poor play, injuries, and a thug getting paid doing nothing for you..how would any of us play the hand dealt to Ron?

 

I am all about the blame game and wow -there is alot to go around.  Oline, Shula...Gettleman to an extent (misfires on who he brought in this time...)...Cam (love him....but he hasnt been the same this year...Shula's fault?)

 

Anyway- I don't want Ron's head.  I think he can lead us to where we all want to go.

 

(nerd alert...this makes me want to say "I believe in Harvey Dent".../shrug).

-Cat

 

 

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I realize that I am no doubt in the minority for still believing in this coach. I won't even say I am the 'silent majority'...but I believe in Ron.

Here is why:

I don't know if the play calling is his fault or Shula. It seems to me that this is a critical area that needs to be better addressed.

Alot (everyone?) has jumped on him for his handling of playing for a field goal. I will watch the game again - but what I saw was:

A kicker that hasnt missed under 50 yards. Close to automatic as you get. Why NOT trust your kicker?

As Cam says...hindsight is 50-50... :) Anyway...I didnt mind the play calling. I think he would have been flambeyyed (s?) if they threw a pass and it was intercepted.

I remember last year. Very well. Many fans (right here) wasnt happy with Ron and the same old witch hunt was on until they started winning. I refuse to believe he is not the same guy.

Consider- consider what we all know. Handcuffed by the cap, poor play, injuries, and a thug getting paid doing nothing for you..how would any of us play the hand dealt to Ron?

I am all about the blame game and wow -there is alot to go around. Oline, Shula...Gettleman to an extent (misfires on who he brought in this time...)...Cam (love him....but he hasnt been the same this year...Shula's fault?)

Anyway- I don't want Ron's head. I think he can lead us to where we all want to go.

(nerd alert...this makes me want to say "I believe in Harvey Dent".../shrug).

-Cat

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I realize that I am no doubt in the minority for still believing in this coach.  I won't even say I am the 'silent majority'...but I believe in Ron.

 

Here is why:

I don't know if the play calling is his fault or Shula.  It seems to me that this is a critical area that needs to be better addressed.

Alot (everyone?) has jumped on him for his handling of playing for a field goal.  I will watch the game again - but what I saw was:

            A kicker that hasnt missed under 50 yards.  Close to automatic as you get.  Why NOT trust your kicker?

            As Cam says...hindsight is 50-50...   :)   Anyway...I didnt mind the play calling.  I think he would have been flambeyyed (s?) if they threw a pass and it was intercepted.

 

I remember last year.  Very well.  Many fans (right here) wasnt happy with Ron and the same old witch hunt was on until they started winning.  I refuse to believe he is not the same guy.

 

Consider- consider what we all know.  Handcuffed by the cap, poor play, injuries, and a thug getting paid doing nothing for you..how would any of us play the hand dealt to Ron?

 

I am all about the blame game and wow -there is alot to go around.  Oline, Shula...Gettleman to an extent (misfires on who he brought in this time...)...Cam (love him....but he hasnt been the same this year...Shula's fault?)

 

Anyway- I don't want Ron's head.  I think he can lead us to where we all want to go.

 

(nerd alert...this makes me want to say "I believe in Harvey Dent".../shrug).

-Cat

 

You go, Fanboy !!!

 

Rivera chose to run to the left hash on 3rd and 5 to set-up his kicker where his kicker wanted to be set-up. 46 is not "automatic" for Gano at that distance, but the odds were strongly in his favor. And guess what, regardless of what some people may believe, the running play could have succeeded.

 

Some will forget that Rivera's QB has been sacked or intercepted on fully 12% of his pass attempts this season....

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There is no doubting Ron Rivera was handed a team that was short on talent,however, situations like that really show what a HC is made of,good or bad..

 

Did I expect Rivera to take this team to the playoffs? Not really Did i expect him to have a winning season? Probably not. Did I expect him to have this team ready to play each week and be competive? Yes,but he didn't  

 

Rivera not only failed to prepare the team for games,he also failed to make game time adjustments and went into a conservative shell when the game was on the line.He has stood by an let Shula,a proven inept OC, call plays and schemes that never work but they keep getting repeated regardless.

 

I could go on and on in my evaluation but the bottom line is,I think Rivera is probably a good DC but just not suited, or meant to be a top rated NFL HC..

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I'm with the OP...I know it's not as fun as writing O line in every thread or wishing for losses but this is going to take more than one season to fix the cap issue, and last year was same coach and it wasn't too bad, hell it was riverboat baby...

 

We need the team that played in the second half of the ATL game...not the one in the first half.  I'm looking forward to kicking the Vikings butts and getting on roll.

 

and not showing up for games is BS, yeah our team sucks right now but I'm still with them ...and always will.

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You sit on a lead if your up two scores. You can't shut down your offense like he does and put it on your defense. You've got to score points in today's NFL. The game has changed. That brand of football will get you beat. Much too conservative.

He could save his job if he gets a competent OC but unless he's made to do so I see more of the same

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The only time during Rivera's tenure that this team has looked like it was going somewhere was the last 3/4s of last season. Prior to that, the team would just win a handful of meaningless games late in the season when they were already out of contention to make the end record look a little less hideous. I had hoped Rivera had learned his lesson and turned the corner last year. This season has killed that notion. He's riverted right back to his old conservative, scared shitless self.

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