Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Steve Smith, Brandon LaFell and Kelvin Benjamin all caught touchdown passes today


PanthersClinic

Recommended Posts

Too bad we didn't have the money to end up with all these guys, sure would've been more lethal than Brenton Bersin and Philly Brown.

 

I'm no cap expert but we really screwed the pooch with the WR icebreaker last offseason. We had Ginn stretching the field, Smith picking up tough third downs and LaFell working the middle of the field.

 

Also Ginn did punt returns quite well. Philly Brown took one back but was very unreliable and Bersin had no big play potential and developed a perverse fear of the ball in the playoffs.

 

Well, there's always tomorrow. Hopefully Gettleman will put a decent crew of receivers around Cam next season. The talent on offense simply wasn't acceptable this season. Honestly if they cut every receiver but KB tomorrow I'd be fine. That's how low quality the crew this year was.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

thing is, you're gonna want someone to be the vet to mentor everyone else and Cotchery may as well be the new Proehl.  The other thing is you don't want to keep switching receivers all the time because Cam needs to have chemistry with someone other than Olsen.

 

That said, there's no reason to hold onto Bersin for anything anymore and while I like First Down Philly Brown in theory, if you can get a better option, I'm all for it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Amazingly, I think the loss that hurt the most was Ginn. He and Cam developed a good chemistry on deep balls and he was a gamebreaker as a punt returner. Really wish we could have found a way to keep him.

 

Philly I think will be a better deep threat than Ginn. Ginn had too many drops. Missed his punt returning giving us good field position though. We need to address that in a bad way in the offseason

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I think our offensive problems have more to do with Shula than personnel, to be honest. Patriots and Ravens and Seahawks all have amazing offensive systems. Ours is sh*t. Pure sh*t. LaFell and Smitty would've helped but it was better for us longterm to let them go. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

like the back end of steve smith's contract was mostly prorated money from one of hurney's signature restructures in 2012.  there wasn't much that could be done other than asking him to take an outright paycut.  he would have the upper hand in those negotiations anyway because his contract was already leveraged all to hell.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Amazingly, I think the loss that hurt the most was Ginn. He and Cam developed a good chemistry on deep balls and he was a gamebreaker as a punt returner. Really wish we could have found a way to keep him.

 

Agreed, and he really didnt do anything for the Cards. I really cant blame him though with the money they threw at him.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

retaining all of those guys would have completely fuged our cap is the long and short of it. they were all luxuries we couldn't afford.

But the issue is, there were better options available than what we brought in here for comparable pay. Same with the OL.

if you can cut your #2 WR (sometimes the slot) midway through the season and your offense gets better, then there's something wrong.

But, spilled milk and all... No use in whining about it now. It was our flaw and it ultimately played a huge role in getting us knocked out of the playoffs. I am surprisingly happy with this season considering... But we sure as hell better fix it this offseason.

I'm thinking as many moves as he made letting guys go or walk last season, he us going to have to make that many adding QUALITY recievers this offseason.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Oh, the high expectations after a draft. Keep your expectations low, people. Darin Gantt's latest "Ask The Old Guy" gives life to one of those lessons about pro football reality as a fan: "Rasheed Walker was a three-year starter at left tackle for the Packers, so Freeling is going to have to work. Hunter's got another big 'un in front of him in Bobby Brown III and a different kind of defensive tackle in Tershawn Wharton. Chris Brazzell II's got a lot of traffic at his position. Zakee Wheatley has to be better than the chronically underappreciated Nick Scott, and Sam Hecht is a fifth-round rookie at the hardest position on the line to play, who probably doesn't have immediate positional flexibility, and a solid free agent addition in Luke Fortner in front of him. "Fans generally love their draft class as soon as it arrives, because there is no evidence to the contrary yet. Once guys get on the field, the reality begins to creep in, and the seasoned among you remember that if you get three or four good players out of a draft, that was an amazing draft." https://www.panthers.com/news/ask-the-old-guy-things-looking-up-after-the-draft-monroe-freeling-luke-kuechly-bryce-young-derrick-brown Don't get crazy. Winning the draft (or the offseason BTW) on paper always leads to good feelings and great expectations, especially when you seemingly succeeded the season before, but let's remember that the Panthers are very much a work in progress. Team building takes time. If we get a couple of starters out of the draft, it's a good draft, but three or four would be an amazing draft, and anything more than that is actually sensational--even if entails a few multiple high end rotational players along with three starters. Moreover, kind of within that same vein, the coaches have to let the kids off the chain. Remember the coach-speak of past coaches about competition that is anything but because coaches have their notions about veteran experience? Not saying that they're necessarily wrong, but sometimes I think their reluctance to put the young guys out there is based somewhat in dogma or possibly fear because big stakes are on the line (e.g., their jobs). It can be frustrating to say the least, but the coaches are supposed to know best. Again, I say all of this so that we can remember to temper expectations and keep them within the realm of reality. It's like telling your mind to think of it as something akin to under-promising and over-delivering. Leave room to be pleasantly surprised for the best case scenario, but be cognizant that that rarely happens. I would think at this point, most of us should be able to recognize growth when we see it, and sometimes that growth doesn't manifest itself in the form of immediate supremacy, but a setting of the stage for long term dominance for years to come. It seems like we're on track for an emergence by 2028 or 2029. We still have huge questions, but by 2029, hopefully we will take our seat at the table of the perennial contenders in the NFL.  
    • You’re playing madden we’re talking real football stuff…. He does have you seen his special on internet he def thinks he’s getting paid 
    • Without the team having an identity kinda hard to predict what they value.  They either are really trying to build a balanced team, or preparing for another swing at qb if Bryce doesn’t pan out. Seems like we value the o line but the $ spent there has been underwhelming besides Lewis, you could say it’s because of injuries but still hasn’t been worth the investment. as already stated, the whole handling of Bryce young as a whole has been ass backwards, we spent the years we’re supposed to take advantage of having a qb with a lower cap hit, building the team up to be adequate. now It appears, key word appears, the saints have done it correctly, which is painful to even think about. Regardless, I hope the front office has paid attention to qb contracts recently, such as Tua, Kyler, Daniel jones(pre colts) and don’t settle for subpar qb play at franchise qb rates    
×
×
  • Create New...