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So be honest and completely objective.. Is there really a LT worth a true 1st round pick?!

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If there is anything I am taking away from this draft overall by reading in between the lines and general consenus is this draft is actually stacked at WRs, among a couple other positions. Another recurring theme I seem to be seeing (and maybe its my imagination) is this entire OT class has a "meh" feeling to it.

Now grant it these guys turned out to be busts but when a OT comes out and is a really good prospect, you hear about it, a lot actually. Take Luke Joeckel and Eric Fisher for example, they both went number 1 and number 2 and pre draft, the experts talked about them non stop.

And then Matt Kalil, i remember the hype around him being huge, some Panther fans even wanted us to break the bank and trade for him.

Yes all these guys are essentially busts, thats not really the point im making. What I am trying to say is I just cant get excited about any of these prospects and the closer the draft draws near the more I dont want a OT

It just seems a OT in the 2nd round wont be that big of a drop off from the 1st round. Im just not feeling this OT class at all. Yes LT is a GIGANTIC need at LT, but there doesnt seem to be that one prospect that screams pro bowl potential

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If there is anything I am taking away from this draft overall by reading in between the lines and general consenus is this draft is actually stacked at WRs, among a couple other positions. Another recurring theme I seem to be seeing (and maybe its my imagination) is this entire OT class has a "meh" feeling to it.

Now grant it these guys turned out to be busts but when a OT comes out and is a really good prospect, you hear about it, a lot actually. Take Luke Joeckel and Eric Fisher for example, they both went number 1 and number 2 and pre draft, the experts talked about them non stop.

And then Matt Kalil, i remember the hype around him being huge, some Panther fans even wanted us to break the bank and trade for him.

Yes all these guys are essentially busts, thats not really the point im making. What I am trying to say is I just cant get excited about any of these prospects and the closer the draft draws near the more I dont want a OT

It just seems a OT in the 2nd round wont be that big of a drop off from the 1st round. Im just not feeling this OT class at all. Yes LT is a GIGANTIC need at LT, but there doesnt seem to be that one prospect that screams pro bowl potential

 

That is the point you made...

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IMO, no.  I think Jake Fisher is probably the best LT prospect in this draft, but he doesn't seem like a Gettleman OL.  Gettleman seems to like maulers and Fisher isn't a mauler. 

 

I think we're going to diligently scout OTs, but come draft day, I just don't think there's gonna be anyone there who we have a 1st round grade on and I'm just fine with that.  I'm not really in love with any OT in this draft.  The OT class is deep in mid-round talent, but I think it's pretty shallow at the top.  I don't think there's a huge drop off between guys projected in the first down to guys projected in the mid-rounds.

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IMO, no.  I think Jake Fisher is probably the best LT prospect in this draft, but he doesn't seem like a Gettleman OL.  Gettleman seems to like maulers and Fisher isn't a mauler. 

 

I think we're going to diligently scout OTs, but come draft day, I just don't think there's gonna be anyone there who we have a 1st round grade on and I'm just fine with that.  I'm not really in love with any OT in this draft.  The OT class is deep in mid-round talent, but I think it's pretty shallow at the top.  I don't think there's a huge drop off between guys projected in the first down to guys projected in the mid-rounds.

 

Yep. There's a few interesting mid-rounders like Rob Crisp, Tyrus Thompson, and Jamon Brown.

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It takes time to become good at LT. In a few years some of these do called busts will bloom, watch.

You have to invest in the spot for the future, doesn't have to be our first round we just need to draft a guy who has the talent and can eventually develop.

A rookie coming in and being a good LT isn't the problem, it shouldn't be expected. The problem is this should have been done years ago and instead of having Bell take snaps and suck it should have been a young talent sucking but developing.

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Look at these positions of strength:

DT (weakness until 1st round pick invested)

MLB (weakness (injury) until 1st R pick invested)

QB (weakness until 1st R pick invested)

RB (2 1st R picks on team for past 6+ yrs)

#1 WR (weakness until 1st R pick invested)

OLB (1st R pick invested)

TE (traded draft pick investment)

DE (projected starters 3rd and 2nd/4th R picks)

C (2nd R pick invested)

Now these positions of weakness:

OT (no draft picks invested)

WR 2-5 (no draft picks invested)

S (one 4th R draft pick invested)

KR/PR (revolving door of minimal investment)

So-so (for now):

CB (2 Mid-round investments)

OG (three 2nd-4th R draft picks on team)

Interesting how when we make a committed investment into a position, it seems to get better. Now think again about whether it's "worth it" to invest a first round pick at our weakest position.

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