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Why drafting a RB or defense won't solve our issues.


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Espn 2013 draft redo

Kiko Alonzo was in that draft and he isn't in the top 5??

No credibility. .

And that redo didn't change people's opinion next year when no RB was taken in the 1st round let alone the top 10.. And right now there won't be one in the top 10 this year..

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Kiko Alonzo was in that draft and he isn't in the top 5??

No credibility. .

And that redo didn't change people's opinion next year when no RB was taken in the 1st round let alone the top 10.. And right now there won't be one in the top 10 this year..

He was 6th. And that's because the best two were tre mason and bishop. And don't act like Gurley wasn't top 10, hell even top five before the injury. I'm too the point where I'm cool with whoever they take in the first. We can go back and forth on it but our opinions won't mean poo haha
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Blount workhorse? Brady carried them through the playoffs

And Blount wasn't even a first round pick so that adds more fiule to my argument.

If you want to take it a step further looks look at some recent SB champs

Pats- passing

Hawks-running

Ravens- passing

Giants - balanced

Packers- passing

Steelers - balanced

Saints -passing

Teams who are passive tend to have more success.

I have to disagree. The saints had a good passing game yes but they ran the ball well and almost every year they have 3 running backs that can get the job done. The Giants had a decent run game as well and relied a lot on their front four. Steelers had a nice duo of running backs when they won the Super Bowl in the mid 2000s and had a great defense both Super Bowl wins in the 2000s. Just about every team that ha won a super bowl lately has been able to run the football, at least in the playoffs.

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He was 6th. And that's because the best two were tre mason and bishop. And don't act like Gurley wasn't top 10, hell even top five before the injury. I'm too the point where I'm cool with whoever they take in the first. We can go back and forth on it but our opinions won't mean poo haha

Does that happen to any other position thoe..

Even when the talent isn't elite.. A CB a LB a WR will still be drafted in the 1st round. .

Right now RB value is close to OG..

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He'll draft one when their value lines up with where we're picking.  Until then, he won't draft one.  Same with any position.  He's not going to reach.

 

How did values line up when Gettleman drafted G Edmund Kugbila  with pick #108 in the 3rd round? With the VERY NEXT pick, Green Bay selected OT David Bakhtiari? You say David who? This kid went on to start EVERY game his rookie year because Brian Bulaga went down with an ACL in the preseason. Hell, when Bulaga came back, they kept Bakhtiari on the left side and moved Bulaga to the right. Bakhtiari is the first rookie to start EVERY game in a Green Bay since 1978. I know hindsight is 20/20, but Big Dave gets paid to do this, right? Looks like he missed bad on this one. Maybe he can redeem himself this year before it's too late. #staywoke

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ignoring BPA doesn't work out.

Gman doesn't draft for need. He factors in what we don't need as well. I can live with that philosophy.

 

 

He'll draft one when their value lines up with where we're picking.  Until then, he won't draft one.  Same with any position.  He's not going to reach.

Exactly the reason he didn't draft a Tackle last year. The value never matched up to where our picks were located. That, and he was sure that after the first few rounds, no talent was better than what we had.

He will sign anyone he thinks makes us better. As long as he can see value in the signing. Which is the main reason I can't wait to have some money. I am plenty interested in how he is going to value the higher rated FAs.

 

 

Did any if you Mel Kipers know who bene benewikere or Andrew norwell were before the draft

As a Big Ten fan, I did know who Norwell was. As for Bene', no clue. But I get what you are saying.

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Yeah but NE go after free agents, we don't, NE also drafted a OT in the first 2 years ago.

All those teams I listed outside of the Steelers and NY are usually busy in FA, they also surround their QB with weapons.

Didn't the Patriots win the Super Bowl because of a stellar defensive play from a nobody?

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Didn't the Patriots win the Super Bowl because of a stellar defensive play from a nobody?

 

That was all playbook study showing up!  Brandon Browner and Butler both stated it was rub route and knew where the ball was going

 

Question:    If we believe in drafting high round picks on Defensive side for DT's & DE's  due to the talent level that would make impact on the field , then shouldn't it be noted that it would take same talent level on the Offensive side of the ball to contain these pass rusher and control the line of scrimmage?

 

 

OT's :  People believe that Oher and Martin can succeed here due to Matsko and the coaching staff. Then imagine what they can do with even better Talent and knowing the player will be here  for long term development. 

 

Defense: Many still argue to take defensive players in the earlier round and still neglect the offense, These fellow Huddlers also argues OT's and offensive need can be filled in the lower rounds. Then why can't this notion be applied to our defensive need targeting players in the mid and lower rounds? We already had success with Bene & Tre Boston, and if Gettleman is the scout we know and fellow the Huddlers claim then this shouldn't be a issue. 

 

 

Answer: Sharpen Iron with Iron!

 

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How did values line up when Gettleman drafted G Edmund Kugbila with pick #108 in the 3rd round? With the VERY NEXT pick, Green Bay selected OT David Bakhtiari? You say David who? This kid went on to start EVERY game his rookie year because Brian Bulaga went down with an ACL in the preseason. Hell, when Bulaga came back, they kept Bakhtiari on the left side and moved Bulaga to the right. Bakhtiari is the first rookie to start EVERY game in a Green Bay since 1978. I know hindsight is 20/20, but Big Dave gets paid to do this, right? Looks like he missed bad on this one. Maybe he can redeem himself this year before it's too late. #staywoke

Dave does no wrong, you know that

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How did values line up when Gettleman drafted G Edmund Kugbila  with pick #108 in the 3rd round? With the VERY NEXT pick, Green Bay selected OT David Bakhtiari? You say David who? This kid went on to start EVERY game his rookie year because Brian Bulaga went down with an ACL in the preseason. Hell, when Bulaga came back, they kept Bakhtiari on the left side and moved Bulaga to the right. Bakhtiari is the first rookie to start EVERY game in a Green Bay since 1978. I know hindsight is 20/20, but Big Dave gets paid to do this, right? Looks like he missed bad on this one. Maybe he can redeem himself this year before it's too late. #staywoke

 

Apparently they (the GM, coaches, and/or scouts) had Kugbila rated higher then Bakhtiari.

 

You can find instances like this for any GM in the league.

 

Did he miss on this one?  Seems like it.  GMs miss all the time.  In reality they miss more then they hit. 

 

Judging a GM on a single pick or even a single draft is a bit unrealistic.  I look at drafting like hitting in MLB.  The good ones fail 65% of the time.  The bad ones fail 75% of the time.

 

DG could do terrible this draft and his 3 year average would probably be comparable to most of the league.

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If a rb averages positive yardage the passing game then opens up but its the timing of the two. You cant run on 1st and 2nd down everytime you touch the ball hope for the first and come up shy and throw on third and whatever. You have to alternate between the first two downs to keep the d guessing and both will eventually open up each other. Shula can be predictable when he gets repetitive. So a rb could be equally as game changing as the other positions of need. Though you cant do either without a good line.

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