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Too bad we didn't fire Rivera and hire Gus Malzahn or Chip Kelly when we had the chance...


TonyN

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Sorry, but I wanted to get a head start on the "Fire Rivera ...Fire Rivera NOW!!!" threads that are an annual, early fall rite of passage here on The Huddle.

Incidentally, as limited as this group is offensively, the Panthers have a legit shot at being 5-1 or 6-0 before Messrs. Luck and Rogers come a callin'...

Should be fun.

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If I'm being honest, I'd still probably rather have Malzahan, or Chip Kelly (as long as he's not the GM/total control over the roster as well).  Hell I'd take Bill O'Brien or just about any other coach as long as a different OC came with him.  Our team wins in spite of our coaching, not because of it.  I'm not as hard on Rivera as I used to be, but that soft defense poo to end every half still pisses me off.

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If I'm being honest, I'd still probably rather have Malzahan, or Chip Kelly (as long as he's not the GM/total control over the roster as well).  Hell I'd take Bill O'Brien or just about any other coach as long as a different OC came with him.  Our team wins in spite of our coaching, not because of it.  I'm not as hard on Rivera as I used to be, but that soft defense poo to end every half still pisses me off.

Kelly is a freakin turkey neck train wreck...Eagle fans will be crying for the days of Reed....Riv will get better, i believe.... if Mike Tomlin would have went anywhere else he'd bene looking for a job a long time ago.... Players like Rivera.

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