Non exclusive tag placed on Norman via J.person

[Bartin]

1 minute ago, d-dave said:

I will say, we don't know the exact terms of the contract last season.  Let's say for easy math it's $7 million a year.

2015 $7 million + 2016: $7 Million = $14 million, plus the next two years ($14 million) = $14 million / $28 Million in 2018

2015: $1.5 million + 2016: $14 million = $15.5 million (Plus nothing guaranteed past this season)

So he kind of broke even these past two years, I'm using easy numbers because I'm an idiot.  I just realized though the guaranteed money in a contract basically comes up front (or most of it).  So yes, in two years, he's lost a bit (from the signing bonus), BUT he stands to make so much more money as time goes on should he play at a high level and remain healthy.

He traded a smaller guaranteed amount for a possible huge pay increase.  You can't blame him.  If he does have a great, healthy year (assuming he doesn't sign a long term deal before July 15), his value only increases.

Josh should take what he can get, use the time to try to get something done, but he also has to realize that his chance at big money will be here compared to life as a 29 year old FA CB.

I'll agree with that. The safest move for him is to take the biggest contract on the table on 7/15 to maximize his earnings. He will have won his gamble by playing out the final year of his deal and not risk being a 29 year old FA CB. He would give up a little bit in potential earnings like $5M total if he continues to be a stud for the next two years, but that is much better than $15M+ he could have missed out on by taking the deal last year.

[Snake]

Makes sense, Norman can test the waters and we can still sign him. 

[mc52beast]

Remember what Getty keeps saying... he doesn't want to spend the time and money developing players for other teams.

[arbnranger]

Did anyone else remember the Panthers tagging Sauerbrun?

[Bartin]

17 minutes ago, arbnranger said:

Did anyone else remember the Panthers tagging Sauerbrun?

Yeah, K/P tags are relatively cheap, especially back then, so they happen way more frequently than you might think.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Good

[w280sax]

Trading two first rounders for Gilbert set the panthers back 5 years imo.

I would like to see us keep josh but if we got 2 first rounders instead that would be amazing.  That will not happen tho.

[TylerDurden]

IMO, no one is trading for Josh.  Two first rounders is only worth trading if you believe the player you're getting is a once in a generation-type player.

Josh is possibly the best corner in the game, if not, at least top 3.  That being said, i also think there's a good deal of skepticism league-wide because he has only been a league-wide sensation for one season.  I also think while he is talented enough to impact a game, regardless of the system he plays in, he excels in our system especially.  All those factors combined, allowing other teams to possibly make offers on him, OR NOT, will open his eyes a bit.  I don't blame him at all for wanting the money, but with limited cap space, no team is going to pay him "best CB in the league" money, and that will bring his agent's demands back down to earth.

I'm expecting it may take awhile, but a long-term deal will get done.

[Clicheking]

No one is trading two 1st for Norman people, that's not how this works. He'll play this year under the tender and more than likely be gone next year. Sad but true

[ickmule]

I really hope someone is dumb enough to give up just 1 first rounder and. 2nd. While I think Josh is good he can go ahead and leave and play for a turd of a team. I've said all year he was full of poo when he said anything about wanting to be here. He only wants to be here if he is the highest paid CB in the league and he ain't worth that. Peace out bro. 

[CPantherKing]

Before he even plays a game in year 3, by taking the tag the future value of his money in pocket could be worth more than his realized earnings of not signing a contract last season while playing the full 7 years.

It is all about the guaranteed money.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Now that we got this piece of business out of the way, we can focus o re-signing other guys.

[carpanfan96]

13 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Now that we got this piece of business out of the way, we can focus o re-signing other guys.

He's the number one priority and the team is still in talks to sign him long term. While I imagine other deals will get done before Josh get's a long term deal, that deal is still a top priority for this off season for the Panthers. 

[johnnydefence]

2 1st would be incredible!  We could trade both pics to move up into the top 10 and grab the number one tackle.  Then use our number one pick in grab the best center. Anyway just dreaming!