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In affirmation of our new CBs, you can read between the lines regarding Boykin


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21 hours ago, Clicheking said:

Agreed. I never seen so many people make a big deal on a player who ultimately didn't matter. Never played a snap for us, signed a minimal contract and is on his way to his 4th team in 2 years for a reason. Boykin was simply insurance in case the draft didn't shake out the way we wanted it to. Once it did he was expendable

This.

Boykin was a band-aid and we were able to rebuild the position group from the top of our board.

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47 minutes ago, teeray said:

I've been spending too much in the Tinderbox.  Was there really people upset we cut Boykin??

I am just miffed that we cut Boykin as opposed to McClain (but he is likely on borrowed time also). I guess we saved a few bucks...enough to buy a Happy Meal.

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8 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

Boykin was brought here to be the nickel in a strong front 7 to complete the secondary between one of the best CBs in the NFL and a promising up and coming CB.

Imagine how he felt when the plan he was pitched completely crumbled and turned into a total rebuild of youth/inexperience?

Do you think he ever wanted to be an outside CB? No. He takes pride in covering the slot and making a living out of it in the NFL. He has several other teams who want him to fill that exact role. Now, do you think he wants to be trusting his career to the calls/communication of 3 rookie CBs? Absolutely not. Having to work with 1 rookie CB for a majority of a game is bad enough with all the communication breakdowns that will occur.

Boykin was brought in as a short-term stopgap to fill a hole the team had at the time.  But once the team found a player they want to develop into a long-term fixture in that position, the plan and Boykin's role changed.  No player is guaranteed anything, and they all know this going in...especially one signing for the minimum on a one year deal.  

I'm sure he wasn't happy about it, but it cannot have come as a major surprise to him.  He wasn't brought in as a priority FA, just a bargain basement addition to fill a gap.  I think many fans wrongly assumed he was brought in for a much bigger role than he was.  If the team thought so highly of him, they would have targeted him sooner, and would have likely offered more than the vet minimum.  He was just a capable warm body.  And he has said several times that he wants to play outside.  In fact, I believe that was a bone of contention between him and the Eagles.

The concerns about such a young defensive backfield are valid, but I think our coaches feel that our system can protect them and our front seven can cause enough pressure that their exposure will be limited. 

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11 minutes ago, Woodie said:

Boykin was brought in as a short-term stopgap to fill a hole the team had at the time.  But once the team found a player they want to develop into a long-term fixture in that position, the plan and Boykin's role changed.  No player is guaranteed anything, and they all know this going in...especially one signing for the minimum on a one year deal.  

I'm sure he wasn't happy about it, but it cannot have come as a major surprise to him.  He wasn't brought in as a priority FA, just a bargain basement addition to fill a gap.  I think many fans wrongly assumed he was brought in for a much bigger role than he was.  If the team thought so highly of him, they would have targeted him sooner, and would have likely offered more than the vet minimum.  He was just a capable warm body.  And he has said several times that he wants to play outside.  In fact, I believe that was a bone of contention between him and the Eagles.

The concerns about such a young defensive backfield are valid, but I think our coaches feel that our system can protect them and our front seven can cause enough pressure that their exposure will be limited. 

for what it's worth he did say he wanted to play outside when he was with the eagles

http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2015/6/2/8716223/brandon-boykin-eagles-cornerback-slot-outside-start-chip-kelly-quote

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25203898/eagles-boykin-says-hes-nfls-best-slot-corner-but-wants-to-play-outside

the rub seemed to be that chip kelly told him that he would be able to compete for an outside spot

again though we have to defer to cpantherking as he was probably in the room with rivera, gettleman, and boykin when it was all going down

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1 hour ago, mashburnfalcon said:

Am I hearing this right? You rather the falcons have a proven NFL player boykin instead of one of these rookies (like bene)???? And you would be more upset? 

 

Yeah I'm not buying it. I rather give you any dt we drafted instead of giving y'all soliai. (And that's even with soliai being limited in Quinns scheme)

I think the problem is fans hear a name that they know and tend to build him up or tear him down depending on their team's interest.  IMO, Boykin is a solid player, but not likely a difference maker either way.  He's a guy that's not going to hurt a team, so can fill a role until you can find someone that can have more impact. 

I don't know if any of these rookies are ready to make an impact this year, but I think the team feels they can be solid as they develop into impact players.  That's why Boykin was released, not because he wouldn't have been a good player for us.  

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