Bradberry and Worley

[FootballLivesMatter]

How good are these two young bucks playing right now? I'm pretty impressed.

Since Bradberry came back from the turf toe injury, our secondary has looked pretty damn good. 

Week 9: LA

top receiver, Kenny Britt 4 rec 49 yds 1td

Week 10: KC

top reciever, Tyreke Hill 10 rec 89 yds (did not play as good a game as the stats show) 

Week 11: NO

top reciever, Brandin Cooks 7 rec 42 yds (first match 7 rec 173 yds 1td)

Week 12: OAK

top receiver, Amari Cooper 4 rec 22 yds

Michael Crabtree 8 rec 110 yds (a 49 yd catch on AJ Klein) 

Week 13: SEA

top reciever, Doug Baldwin 7 rec 65 yds

Week 14: SD

top receiver, Tyrell Williams 2 rec 68 yds

 

 

other than Tyreke Hill, all the recievers mentioned above are top 25 in receiving yards currently. And, top 23 if you take out TEs.

Are these two rookies playing better or is it because of our DLine? I thought that there were plenty of times today that Rivers had no where to throw the ball to even with good blocking up front. 

If we could upgrade Tre Boston next season I think it'll be fun to watch. 

Will be tested in these last three games with high power offense. 

[Verge]

It's not as simple as that, Bradberry isn't exactly asked to man up against the best WR each week. Bradberry is by far our best corner, and he is a pro bowl talent, but it's not exactly like he is single handedly shutting dudes down.

[FootballLivesMatter]

2 minutes ago, Verge said:

It's not as simple as that, Bradberry isn't exactly asked to man up against the best WR each week. Bradberry is by far our best corner, and he is a pro bowl talent, but it's not exactly like he is single handedly shutting dudes down.

I understand. It's a system. But, Norman did it here too. I'm just saying before Week 9, Julio did go for 300 yards and Brandin Cooks over a buck 50.

I think both guys are playing better than what we could have asked at this point. Especially being rookies and was thrown out to the wolves.

[GoobyPls]

This was Worley best game by far. He played horrible against KC and LA, multiple blown assignments that weren't taken advantage of.

[t96]

1 hour ago, Verge said:

It's not as simple as that, Bradberry isn't exactly asked to man up against the best WR each week. Bradberry is by far our best corner, and he is a pro bowl talent, but it's not exactly like he is single handedly shutting dudes down.

So what you're saying is it wasn't as simple as Josh was shutting guys down last year? What a revelation. Going by what's said on this board, Josh was our entire defense last year and carried the team and letting him go for some rookies was the worst move by any GM in league history.

[The Lone Panther]

I wouldn't get rid of Boston.  He doesn't need to be a starter, but he was pretty good as a rotational guy.  I would rather see us go sign a quality SS, take J. Adams in the 1st, move Coleman back to FS and let Boston back him up.  Then you factor in Bradberry and probably a vet CB signing in the FA, Worley as a rotational guy, and that secondary just got a whole lot better. 

[CPantherKing]

The Panthers have the worst pass defense in the NFL.

• 31st in yards per game.
• 29th in completion %.
• 27th in TDs.
• 27th in yards per attempt.
• They have given up a 95.5 combined rating to QBs.

The 2 things going for the defense are:

1. 5th in interceptions (led by the LBs) There is not a single CB with multiple interceptions.
2. 2nd in sacks.

So, the improvement on the defense is due to the DL getting to the QB and the LBs creating turnovers.

Do you believe that everyone, but the 2 rookie CBs are just horrible in the secondary and the rookies do not factor in to why the pass defense has been so bad?

The Panthers are also 30th in the NFL in stopping 1st downs against the passing game. Compare that to the run defense being 10th in the NFL in stopping 1st downs. Then keep in mind that Bradberry and Worley have given up the most 1st downs on the Panthers defense in the running game.

Some may want to forget just how bad the passing defense is and how badly the secondary ranks in the NFL, but the numbers show where the problem is at on the defense. The major problem lies at CB in both the run and passing game.

Opponents have targeted and attacked the rookie CBs in all facets of the game when they are trailing the Panthers in the 2nd half of games - especially the 4th quarter. They have been able to pick up easy 1st downs and chunks of yardage to get in to the red zone. This has unfortunately led to several lost leads and lost games.

[Verge]

1 hour ago, thomas96 said:

So what you're saying is it wasn't as simple as Josh was shutting guys down last year? What a revelation. Going by what's said on this board, Josh was our entire defense last year and carried the team and letting him go for some rookies was the worst move by any GM in league history.

I mean, they did ask Josh to do a ton of man to man on the opposing receiver. 

[pantherfan49]

Would have been awesome for Bradberry and Norman to have played together for a year.  A healthy all-year Mario Addison would have really made that defense something solid.

 

Still wouldn't have addressed the biggest issue on the team though.  You lose your LT in the NFL, you go to poo. 

[csx]

1 hour ago, Verge said:

I mean, they did ask Josh to do a ton of man to man on the opposing receiver. 

He played little man here last year and was much better in zone. it's what other players gave him grief overy with their poo talk.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/09/21/nfl-josh-norman-washington-redskins-odell-beckham-jr-new-york-giants

[Jeremy Igo]

Are they all pros? no

 

Have they been very impressive at a position that is one of the toughest for rookies to acclimate to? yes

 

So far so good. Hopefully they continue to improve. 

[Davidson Deac II]

I still think it was a significant mistake to rely so heavily on rookies this year.  And it showed in our secondary performance this year as we are bottom five in pass defense despite leading the league in Sacks.  

 

That being said, both appear to have the potential to become solid NFL corners.  

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, Verge said:

I mean, they did ask Josh to do a ton of man to man on the opposing receiver. 

That U-turn was so damn quick it made my head spin. :P

[Saca312]

Imo, the lack of a decent SS is really what kills us in pass protection. That's why I say it's our biggest need since the Atlanta game and reports of communication issues. Otherwise, I like where this group is headed.