It's worse than I thought

[thefuzz]

11 minutes ago, Kakarot said:

Well, that's expected. We just had a losing season, and not only a losing season, but a season in which we went 15-1 to drafting top 10. Not only will these so called "bandwagon" fans be more vocal, but your going to have "real" fans be vocal as well. 

 

 

 

Unfortunately, what's going on is a lot of bitching, and many of the "real" fans as you called them have stopped posting.

[Kakarot]

4 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Unfortunately, what's going on is a lot of bitching, and many of the "real" fans as you called them have stopped posting.

Those real fans you're talking about pretty much stopped posting once Cam came into his own around 2012. Also, that's usually how messageboards go. Fans stop posting everywhere. They stop posting, and another group of real fans take their place. Hell, even some of the "bandwagon" fans many of y'all don't like end up sticking around and becoming real fans.

[Riverboat Ron]

28 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

See, it's hard to get a sure-fire one of any of those positions. Going higher in the draft helps, but it is no guarantee of anything. Grabbing one in free agency can sometimes be a case of paying highly for some other team's leftovers -- it's a lot like buying a used car off of Craig's List -- it might be just as good as advertised, or it might have rusted out rocker arms and sawdust in the transmission.

You see, the guys don't come with Madden stats and it's not a plug and play situation. It isn't insert X dollars here to get 1,000 yards and 8 touchdowns.

Either Fournette or Cook could be the best players to ever strike the field, or they could be the next RGIII or Reggie Bush.

Luckily, we've got Gettleman here and he's proven to be a pretty good judge of playing ability and he's an expert at balancing budget versus capabilities. He's also proven that he picks up players that add positive influences in the locker room and on the field -- something that a lot of desperate GMs don't even bother to do.

Gettleman has been playing the long game, and it took a while to climb out of the hole he started in. Have patience, the guy knows better what he's doing than you do... I mean, he is studying tape and speaking with scouts right now while you're just spinning your wheels arguing over how bad 2016 was.

 

Fournette is a 90 overall rookie at least bruh. When has Madden been wrong?

[Cookie Lyon]

6 hours ago, heel31ok said:

Acknowledged...OK , OT still needs help and hasn't been managed well...

THIS

[pstall]

This is so easy. This is the year to spend money and you throw in a top 10 pick and a last place schedule and now you got something to work with.

6 losses by a fg or less. Win 3 and you might be in the playoffs.

So lets delve into the heart of the thread.  How many offensive players should be drafted to alleviate the lack of not trying to help Cam i mean the team out? 

[panthers55]

8 hours ago, Cookie Lyon said:

This is very telling and inexcusable.

All of this "evolve" talk from Rivera should start with him and Gettleman prioritizing the offense for a change. Hopefully, they do just that in the upcoming draft.

Another Cam doesn't have enough talent around him thread by a poster who blames Shula in every thread as if this lack of talent doesn't his ability to do his job either. Hypocritical at best.

[Silent Majority]

It's dudes on here LITERALLY on both sides of their own argument. Loool pathetic egotist.

[Cookie Lyon]

33 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Another Cam doesn't have enough talent around him thread by a poster who blames Shula in every thread as if this lack of talent doesn't his ability to do his job either. Hypocritical at best.

[AceBoogie]

8 hours ago, thefuzz said:

Rarely is this ever answered, and even less with solid analysis.

Too easy, we can go back and draft Hopkins over Star or Hunter Henry over Butler 

[Silent Majority]

Funny how all of the "but..but..but, last year", support for Gettleman does not translate to Cam. Curious thing that. 

[RickyManningJr]

9 hours ago, thefuzz said:

Rarely is this ever answered, and even less with solid analysis.

The formula has obviously been working lol. Almost won the Super Bowl last year and were a good team that caught some bad breaks this year. The Panthers could have easily been a playoff team.  

I am agreeing with you if it is not clear. People like to take shots. This franchise could be a lot worse off.

[heel31ok]

10 minutes ago, Silent Majority said:

Funny how all of the "but..but..but, last year", support for Gettleman does not translate to Cam. Curious thing that. 

well handle your business by giving him the support he needs and then we can see for sure what his personal responsibility in the matter really is...eliminate it as a factor...

[panthers55]

49 minutes ago, Cookie Lyon said:

Weren't you the one crying on here about Shula being here. I think I was laughing at all you whiners.

[top dawg]

1 hour ago, pstall said:

So lets delve into the heart of the thread.  How many offensive players should be drafted to alleviate the lack of not trying to help Cam i mean the team out? 

That's going to depend upon free agency, but if we don't address the LT/OT position, and if we don't address the second TE position, I am going to be a human bobblehead I'm shaking my head so damned much. Moreover, we really need another WR and RB also, so to answer your question, probably at least four players that can legitimately start even if they don't (again, depending upon FA).