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Vernon Butler - Luxury pick gone wrong?


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With the KK signing this week, I want to get everyone's thought on whether this solidifies our 2016 1st round draft pick as a mistake or whether he can be beneficial in other areas. When we originally picked him, I questioned the pick originally but came around to it when I realized that KK would more than likely walk after playing out his contract after the 2016 season. Now that that theory is out the window, I'm left to wonder if the pick was a huge waste of our first round selection last year when looking at the holes in other areas of our roster. He seems to be too big to play DE and not big enough to take over for Star. Is his ceiling KK's breather for the next 5 years? If so, there is no choice but to call this pick a bust, regardless of how good he becomes. There is no way his production in that role can fit his draft position. Thoughts?

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