Mike Shula on Picking McCaffrey

[twylyght]

1 hour ago, d-dave said:

Got to look at the other side of the coin: Shula, Rivera and JOBS.  They have been given an expensive, explosive and game changing toy.  If Shula doesn't use him well, he's going to get fired.  Therefore, it's in Shula's best interest to evolve, adapt, and put out an evolved offense that makes use of CMC's skills.

By the basic idea of survival of the fittest, then I think Shula is going to evolve his offense.  To maximize CMC in his first five years and give Cam some longevity.

Last year, we had offensive personnel that could be taller and heavier than almost anything opposing defense threw at us.  We could have dinked and dunked all day and put anyone away.  Instead, we went with the continuance of a power run game with a run-and-shoot pass attack, with some run option sprinkled in-between.... only the option didn't involve a quick out to one of our trees in the flat.  Same long-developing plays, same option-reads into a waiting pile of defenders, same bubble screen that is not fooling any halfway decent team, same requisite run plays to open a game to establish the power run mindset.  What am I missing here?

[twylyght]

1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

First of all we don't run a power scheme 90% of the time. Secondly we had the worst rated wide receiver group in 2015 and it wasn't much better last year. What Denver exposed is that our offensive line was suspect and our receivers couldn't get separation against press corners. Plus if you take head shots at Cam you can take him out of his game.
The overall feeling has been that Cam doesn't have enough weapons so you seem to be either be in the minority or are talking about some other team besides the Panthers.

Take the running game away, and what does Carolina have for offense?

[d-dave]

10 minutes ago, twylyght said:

Last year, we had offensive personnel that could be taller and heavier than almost anything opposing defense threw at us.  We could have dinked and dunked all day and put anyone away.  Instead, we went with the continuance of a power run game with a run-and-shoot pass attack, with some run option sprinkled in-between.... only the option didn't involve a quick out to one of our trees in the flat.  Same long-developing plays, same option-reads into a waiting pile of defenders, same bubble screen that is not fooling any halfway decent team, same requisite run plays to open a game to establish the power run mindset.  What am I missing here?

The part about change or die.  If it's the same ole same ole in 2017, there will be a new coaching staff planning the 2018 draft.

I'm just a nobody, but if my boss told me to change and do things or else I'm fired, I'm going to change and do things differently and better.  That's why I feel confident that we're going to see a different year.  Last year, there was a mind set of do the same because we were so successful in 2015.  We saw where that got us.

[Hoenheim]

1 hour ago, tiger7_88 said:

Exactly.

And Jeremy Shockey wasn't running post-routes 40 yards downfield in that offense either.   Yet, somehow, with his purported "inability to throw short, soft touch passes",  Cam managed to pass for over 4000 yards with 60% completion that year.

Probably not a coincedence his best year with short passes to RB? happen to have great passing stats. And now Shula pretty much has to use it in our offense now that McCaffrey is here.

I have not a clue when Cam will be totally recovered from the shoulder surgery but I agree, he should spend some time even outside of regularly scheduled practice just throwing to McCaffrey

[Popsickle]

Does anyone actually trust this retard to get him involved in the offense where it's not run 50 yards down the field

Not one bit

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[twylyght]

1 hour ago, d-dave said:

The part about change or die.  If it's the same ole same ole in 2017, there will be a new coaching staff planning the 2018 draft.

I'm just a nobody, but if my boss told me to change and do things or else I'm fired, I'm going to change and do things differently and better.  That's why I feel confident that we're going to see a different year.  Last year, there was a mind set of do the same because we were so successful in 2015.  We saw where that got us.

Shula's history is pretty established.  I would love for a pleasant surprise, but I am not betting on it.

[YoungPanthers89]

I don't trust Shula AT ALL with this kid

[SOJA]

Just now, YoungPanthers89 said:

I don't trust Shula AT ALL with this kid

I don't trust Shula either but at some point this whole situation might be idiot proof 

5 Oline

Benjamin, Funchess

Olsen

Cam 

Stew 

McCaffrey 

or 

take Stew off and throw in another WR and shift Christian to the backfield. 

Stacking the box- ok? We're just going to shift CMC out to WR and have throw a bubble screen he might take to the house. 

Spreading out in the dime- cool we'll run between the tackles all day with either Stew or McCaffrey. 

Putting your best cover Safety on McCaffrey, we've got Greg Olsen. 

 

My point is the modern NFL isn't so much about positions as it is about matchup problems you can create once everyone is already out on the field. 

[imminent rogaine]

" alright Christian, all of your touches today will be end arounds or 50 yard wheel routes. Cam, you just sit back there for 4 or 5 secs while we get everyone open. Okay, break!"

[d-dave]

45 minutes ago, twylyght said:

Shula's history is pretty established.  I would love for a pleasant surprise, but I am not betting on it.

Indeed, but he knows, Rivera knows, that if he doesn't change, he's gone.  Just like going to the doctor and finding out your life style will kill you unless you change.  Stakes aren't quite the same, but a similar mindset.

[Hogmolliesmaht]

Shula, Rivera, and the WR coach have all said that CMC will be used pretty much the same way he was used at Stanford. They are professional football coaches. We are not. I'm pretty sure they're not lying to us just to piss us off.

[Shocker]

[panthers55]

3 hours ago, twylyght said:

Take the running game away, and what does Carolina have for offense.

the exact reason I wanted McCaffrey. We need a slot receiver who can get separation and cause mismatches. This is our bigger better Wes Welker.

[RJK]

Shula drawing up plays for McCaffrey