Hypothetical: Hue Jackson

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, TheRumGone said:

I wanted Hugh when we interviewed him after the 2012 season. He’d be perfect for Cam. He’d push Cam and wouldn’t be afraid to call him out and motivate him. Hugh is a dickhead but he’s also a very smart offensive coach. 

I would hope Rivera would be open to new ideas but history shows us that he just goes for the status quo. Hugh is not the status quo. 

A lot of successful guys in the NFL are dickheads when it comes to how they do their job.

The Panthers organization doesn't seem to take kindly to such people.

[GoobyPls]

I would take almost anyone over Shula at this point. But I doubt he leaves after this season.

 

Hue is a terrible head coach that’s one thing I’m sure, Mike Pettine got more out of McCown than Jackson 

[LinvilleGorge]

32 minutes ago, Snake said:

It would be the perfect fit if Rivera could give up that control. Let's not forget CHUD had a huge ego. 

I think that's the primary reason Shula sticks around. Rivera has a nice little puppet who will allow him to dictate much of the offensive approach.

[ladypanther]

The Browns are so bad I do not see how anyone could think another coaching change could help.  They have to get better before they can blame the coach.  Jackson should be safe there....poor guy.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I think that's the primary reason Shula sticks around. Rivera has a nice little puppet who will allow him to dictate much of the offensive approach.

Very possible.

We don't get to see inside the coaches meetings, so we have no idea which coaches like each other and which don't.

Chances are, even if we could, most of us wouldn't give a s--t.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, ladypanther said:

The Browns are so bad I do not see how anyone could think another coaching change could help.  They have to get better before they can blame the coach.  Jackson should be safe there....poor guy.

Understood, but we're talking about the Browns 

Logic doesn't really apply here.

[Fox007]

If we only got Jackson's right pinky it'd be an upgrade over Shula so hell yea.

[bababoey]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sadly, possible.

There are numerous indications that Dorsey is more "buddy" to Cam than actual coach. I have a hard time believing he'd be successful in a more authoritative role like coordinator. 

Rivera might believe it, though.

Regardless, in this thread I'm looking less at what I believe will actually happen and more at whether or not you think Hue could work here as OC.

Hue here would do 1 of 2 things.  It would either be great, Cam would make quicker reads and Hue would create some easier throws for him, or it would suck something massive.  Think what the Giants are going through massive.  Cam would get pissed off because he tried to go for the big play when the easy check down was wide open and that was the first read and Hue just keeps yelling at him game after game about it until Cam just starts to tune him out.  I kind of think the 2nd would happen but would hope for the first.

[Snake]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Very possible.

We don't get to see inside the coaches meetings, so we have no idea which coaches like each other and which don't.

Chances are, even if we could, most of us wouldn't give a s--t.

A interesting twist to that is Rivera wanted CHUD over Jay Gruden. Why no one really knows. 

[csx]

8 minutes ago, Snake said:

A interesting twist to that is Rivera wanted CHUD over Jay Gruden. Why no one really knows. 

Because he had just worked with Chud while Gruden was working UFL. Pretty simple explanation.

[Snake]

7 minutes ago, csx said:

Because he had just worked with Chud while Gruden was working UFL. Pretty simple explanation.

Wow I didn't know you knew Ron so well you could ask him! Next time you talk tell him Hue is a great guy. 

[t96]

Hue's a strange guy but if he truly is as good of an offensive coach as people think then I'd be all for him. I just badly want someone who can design a run game that can sustain itself without us having to run Cam into the ground to have success running. Our run game has been complete horsesh*t all year despite good RBs and a solid interior run blocking OL, UNTIL we started running Cam into the ground again. It's just a complete embarrassment that Cam has to carry the load like he does. We should have a run game that can sustain itself so that it can open things up for Cam in the passing game AND as a threat scrambling. We shouldn't be using him as a battering ram on designed QB draws, etc. It's stupid and all the hits he takes definitely affects his passing game.

[Zithers]

Right before halftime he called a sneak with Kizer with no timeouts. Didn't get in. They couldn't line up in time for another play. Got within the five yard line before the half and didn't score....

I don't want playcalling that brainless anywhere near us.

[PntherPryd]

Will Hue be hired here?  I think you answered your own question when you noted he has already interviewed and passed over.  He wasn’t deemed a good fit and we certainly won’t get into a bidding war for him  

but even more important... IF Jackson is fired (which I don’t think will happen) he will be a hot commodity. Especially if Marvin Lewis retires. Mike Brown wanted Jackson to stay and wait 2 years for just that scenario. He would hire him back in a heartbeat, maybe even give Marvin a little push.