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Am I overreacting to say we need an entire secondary change?

beastson

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Both corners, slot corner and safeties need to be replaced. Your secondary needs to be independent of your pass rush, not dependent. What we have now aint got the answers Sway

I would call the Seahawks and ask what would like for Earl Thomas. I'm going after Malcolm Butler, TJ Ward, I'm bringing Tre Boston back and Kyle Fuller if we can't get him. I wish we could bring Leonard Johnson back but we're stuck with Captain it seems

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Yea

We need to replace the S's though. Even if we changed all of our secondary and keep those old DEs without getting younger there it won't matter if our better corners have to cover for longer and the WR gets open anyway.

The best way to win is with pressure so even with our CBs we need to keep the DEs strong and younger. The Saints have literally 100X the secondary we did and we coulda won the game and they didn't make poo for plays on the ball...Clay just dropped it and 79 yards from half a funchess is respectable....shows you what pressure does as NO beat us with pressure not from their elite secondary.

Last time i checked they let Bersin do em
Last time I checked they let CMC get his best play of the year
Last time I checked Funchess has like 1 arm and a leg out there doing 79 on em.
Last time I checked Cam went for 349 and 2 shoulda been 4(fun/Clay)
Last time I checked Olsen 3rd leg Gregged em.

Passrush bruh...sack won em the game.

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7 minutes ago, beastson said:

Both corners, slot corner and safeties need to be replaced. Your secondary needs to be independent of your pass rush, not dependent. What we have now aint got the answers Sway

I would call the Seahawks and ask what would like for Earl Thomas. I'm going after Malcolm Butler, TJ Ward, I'm bringing Tre Boston back and Kyle Fuller if we can't get him. I wish we could bring Leonard Johnson back but we're stuck with Captain it seems

I don’t like who we have.  I think we need 5 new starters.  It’s just going to be tough to fill all those holes in one offseason with limited cap space.

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5 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Yea

We need to replace the S's though. Even if we changed all of our secondary and keep those old DEs without getting younger there it won't matter if our better corners have to cover for longer and the WR gets open anyway.

The best way to win is with pressure so even with our CBs we need to keep the DEs strong and younger. The Saints have literally 100X the secondary we did and we coulda won the game and they didn't make poo for plays on the ball...Clay just dropped it and 79 yards from half a funchess is respectable....shows you what pressure does as NO beat us with pressure not from their elite secondary.

Last time i checked they let Bersin do em
Last time I checked they let CMC get his best play of the year
Last time I checked Funchess has like 1 arm and a leg out there doing 79 on em.
Last time I checked Cam went for 349 and 2 shoulda been 4(fun/Clay)
Last time I checked Olsen 3rd leg Gregged em.

Passrush bruh...sack won em the game.

Rivera is a biiiiig believer in pass rush.

So yeah, don't expect major changes on the back end.

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One thing people need to remember is we played a lot of good quarterbacks this year. Brees and Ryan x2. Stafford, Brady, Rodgers, Wentz. Even guys like Keenum and Winston were plenty productive this year. When a good QB is on and isn't getting pressured, they will carve up even the best secondaries. LOB at the height of it's powers wouldn't have slowed down Brees last night. 

With that said, yes of course the secondary needs work. Hell, every position group other than QB needs to be looked at improved on a yearly basis. The glaring weakness though is safety, too many times we were beat over the top when a safety should have been in position to stop the play. 

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1 minute ago, Randolph Panther said:

Bradbury has really been a disappointment this year. After last year I thought he was going to be a lock down cornerback 

Not sure what you saw out of him that would make you think he would be a lockdown corner. I did think he could be a serviceable CB after last season, but man did he just look lost out there this season.

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1 minute ago, FugAllY'all said:

One thing people need to remember is we played a lot of good quarterbacks this year. Brees and Ryan x2. Stafford, Brady, Rodgers, Wentz. Even guys like Keenum and Winston were plenty productive this year. When a good QB is on and isn't getting pressured, they will carve up even the best secondaries. LOB at the height of it's powers wouldn't have slowed down Brees last night. 

With that said, yes of course the secondary needs work. Hell, every position group other than QB needs to be looked at improved on a yearly basis. The glaring weakness though is safety, too many times we were beat over the top when a safety should have been in position to stop the play. 

They also let Josh McCown roast them. The only QBs who didn't do anything were Hoyer, Taylor, & Trubisky. Otherwise, every other QB we played had their way. If the secondary was capable of creating some turnovers, that could at least excuse the infinite amount of passing yards they give up each game. Unfortunately, nobody in our secondary can do that.

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