Several thoughts on the game

[top dawg]

Cam is an imperfect beast of a QB. Say what you want, but he is the x-factor of x-factors. So, deal with it, and realize that criticism largely falls on deaf ears. 

McCaffrey absolutely can run in between the tackles. That should be a dead point of contention. And...sure, he is a  really productive receiver, but it's to a great degree because of his native position at RB. He is the ultimate chess piece that can be exploited all across the backfield and on the line. In fact, C-Mac is so good that he makes it hard for another good player in Anderson to see the field.

Our O-line is not the train wreck that people believe(d). GVR has looked pretty damn good, almost like a starter (sarcasm). And what can you say about Moton? He good going on exceptional.

Oh, when A-Jax puts it all together. The kid's game is rising up to the level of swag that he exudes.

Bradberry will never wow you, but he is fundamentally disciplined and can mitigate any receiver in the league. 

Obada is more than hype. His development is palpable, and his potential looks like it has a good possibility of being realized. The push is real!

We need a starting safety, like yesterday. No way that we will go where we want to go with a special reamer and rookie playing all the minutes at safety.

Ron needs to consider his proclivity for taking his foot off the gas pedal with modest leads, particularly late in the game. It might not bite you in the ass everytime, but it will sometimes. He needs to think about believing in his offense as much as he does his defense. I mean, you wanted Norv and have some weapons, floor it sometimes. Don't let the opposition hang just behind like we're rubber-banded to them.

Oh, yeah, Funchess may not be what you think of when thinking of your WR1, but he absolutely has the ability to make plays---clutch plays---when Cam zeroes in on him (just like last season, which some of you just conveniently as hell forget for some reason).

 

 

[Mol3m4n]

Funchess is hit or miss. One game he'll catch a 40 yard pass on crutches and then then the next he'll drop a handoff. 

[Zaximus]

Colin Jones is bad, still bad, and has been bad for YEARS.    I would rather have the practice squad guy out there.    Baffles me that Ron doesn't realize this and keeps playing him.   He was the main bad link out there today.  

We NEED to play CJ more.    I know CMC was having a beast game, but at goal line and some other short yardage situations we need to give CJ more touches.   We need more plays with both in the backfield, etc.

 

[WarHeel]

I know I will get poo for this but I’ll call it like I see it. That unpsportansmanlike by Cam could have very well come back and bit us in the ass and we are fortunate our D stepped up on the Bengals next drive. He’s a vet now and the leader of this team and we need better than that from him.

 

With that being said, I’m hella excited about his evolution with Norv taking over the offense. I’m not a huge proponent of completion percentage but it’s very telling that he’s better with someone who knows how to utilize his talents. 

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

I can completely admit I was wrong about CMC.  I strongly disliked the pick when it happened.  I talked poo about him.  I will eat those words.  I was wrong.  He has been great to watch, either catching or running.  To the outside or between the tackles.

Our OLine and Secondary impressed me the most.  All I heard all week from a friend was how Atkins was going to feast with our line being so depleted.  And while our secondary definitely bent (Dalton did throw for 350+ yards), they didn't break and came up with some turn overs and stops.  I am not expecting All Pro level of play in these two areas.  But they looked a ton better than what I was expecting going in.

Funchess' play felt erratic.  He'd drop a pass I felt he had no business dropping...then turn around and make a great or amazing snag.  He gave me a roller coaster of anxiety all game.  He has the ability.  I want the consistency. 

Ian Thomas had 5 targets.  Only behind Funchess and T Smith.  Caught 3 for 20 yards.  I enjoy seeming him out there, doing his thing, and growing.  

[top dawg]

5 hours ago, WarHeel said:

...it’s very telling that he’s better with someone who knows how to utilize his talents. 

Yep. I would say the same in terms for C-MAC.

On a really off note, I have no problem with Cam spreading the ball around. That's arguably when he is at his best. I just want him to consistently go through his progressions.

[top dawg]

3 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

 

Funchess' play felt erratic.  He'd drop a pass I felt he had no business dropping...then turn around and make a great or amazing snag.  He gave me a roller coaster of anxiety all game.  He has the ability.  I want the consistency. 

Ian Thomas had 5 targets.  Only behind Funchess and T Smith.  Caught 3 for 20 yards.  I enjoy seeming him out there, doing his thing, and growing.  

I am not counting that "drop" against Funchess. It was not in the best location, making it questionable as to whether he really could have caught it. Funchess is more steadfast than you want to give him credit for. It's Smith whose hands are becoming an issue (at least in my opinion).

I like what I'm seeing of Thomas also. I want to see him more involved as a legitimate weapon. He looks like he may turn out to be a better blocker than 88.

[TheRumGone]

10 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

I know I will get poo for this but I’ll call it like I see it. That unpsportansmanlike by Cam could have very well come back and bit us in the ass and we are fortunate our D stepped up on the Bengals next drive. He’s a vet now and the leader of this team and we need better than that from him.

 

With that being said, I’m hella excited about his evolution with Norv taking over the offense. I’m not a huge proponent of completion percentage but it’s very telling that he’s better with someone who knows how to utilize his talents. 

It was a tricky tack call but you’re right he needs to be careful. You might get shredded by people blaming the refs but he tossed the ball at a bengals player. That’s automatic unsportsmanlike penalty. 

I’m not worried I think this is the first maybe second of his career and the bengals were getting chippy.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

Just now, top dawg said:

I am not counting that "drop" against Funchess. It was not in the best location, making it questionable as to whether he really could have caught it. Funchess is more steadfast than you want to give him credit for. It's Smith whose hands are becoming an issue (at least in my opinion).

I like what I'm seeing of Thomas also. I want to see him more involved as a legitimate weapon. He looks like he may turn out to be a better blocker than 88.

Maybe I am misremembering.  Wasnt his "drop", he had 2 hands on the ball?  If someone wants to be a WR1, in my humble opinion, you have to bring the ball in when you get both hands on it.  Especially at this stage of Funchess' career.  He isn't a rookie.  A WR1 should be able to make snags that aren't in the best location.  Unless Funchess' tagline is "I can catch the ball regularly, as long as you can hit me squarely in the numbers"

[Sevy87]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Cam is an imperfect beast of a QB. Say you want, but he is the x-factor of x-factors. So, deal with it, and realize that criticism largely falls on deaf ears. 

McCaffrey absolutely can run in between the tackles. That should be a dead point of contention. And...sure, he is a  really productive receiver, but it's to a great degree because of his native position at RB. He is the ultimate chess piece that can be exploited all across the backfield and on the line. In fact, C-Mac is so good that he makes it hard for another good player in Anderson to see the field.

Our O-line is not the train wreck that people believe(d). GVR has looked pretty damn good, almost like a starter (sarcasm). And what can you say about Moton? He good going on exceptional.

Oh, when A-Jax puts it all together. The kid's game is rising up to the level of swag that he exudes.

Bradberry will never wow you, but he is fundamentally disciplined and can mitigate any receiver in the league. 

Obada is more than hype. His development is palpable, and his potential looks like it has a good possibility of being realized. The push is real!

We need a starting safety, like yesterday. No way that we will go where we want to go with a special reamer and rookie playing all the minutes at safety.

Ron needs to consider his proclivity for taking his foot off the gas pedal with modest leads, particularly late in the game. It might not bite you in the ass everytime, but it will sometimes. He needs to think about believing in his offense as much as he does his defense. I mean, you wanted Norv and have some weapons, floor it sometimes. Don't let the opposition hang just behind like we're rubber-banded to them.

Oh, yeah, Funchess may not be what you think of when thinking of your WR1, but he absolutely has the ability to make plays---clutch plays---when Cam zeroes in on him (just like last season, which some of you just conveniently as hell forget for some reason).

 

 

So to piggy back off a few of your thoughts. Dline is gonna get better every game. Peppers still recovering from surgery & getting into shape. The young guys still a bunch of learning to do, but get that by playing so props to Obada. 

LB- As long as we stay healthy where good here, especially when we get Davis back. Good depth here as well. 

 

CB’S-  where a injury away from being in a bad spot. With that being said Bradberry will never wow you, kind of reminds me of Chris Gamble or Joe Haden.  He’s getting it done tho. Jackson the potential is there & really like what I’ve seen from him. He’s gonna make mistakes he’s a rookie, but he just flashes & tackles.

If we can get a solid corner in the draft or free agency we could be sitting pretty for the future. 

Safties- Let’s be honest they just suck lol We all know it’s the weakest spot on the team. Hot mess! So if we can address this position through the draft or free agency next yr.

Have know problem saying next yr SB will be the Panthers vs Chiefs. 

Didn’t mention Offense bcuz I really think where one more solid olinemen from being  pretty solid. Think where solid at the skill positions moving forward, maybe add a tall speedster in later rounds to groom. 

Have not given up on this season either. Keep Pounding fellas

Cam is Special & we’ve only seen a glimpse. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

Can’t disagree with anything op said, especially taking the foot off the gas, he needs have a “I’m trying to bust the score board” type mentality, he’s too worried about running up the score that it allows team a chance for comebacks 

safety is self explanatory, the neglect is astonishing 

[mbarbour21]

11 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Maybe I am misremembering.  Wasnt his "drop", he had 2 hands on the ball?  If someone wants to be a WR1, in my humble opinion, you have to bring the ball in when you get both hands on it.  Especially at this stage of Funchess' career.  He isn't a rookie.  A WR1 should be able to make snags that aren't in the best location.  Unless Funchess' tagline is "I can catch the ball regularly, as long as you can hit me squarely in the numbers"

Nope, you are 100% correct. The ball wasn’t in the best position, but you can’t expect ANY QB to put it there ALL the time. Besides, as a #1, tha t is a pass you are expected to catch. He had both hands on it, the defender wasn’t draped over him, and he wasn’t anywhere near out of bounds. Have to make that catch. Especially if you want #1 status or money.

[L-TownCat]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

Yep. I would say the same in terms for C-MAC.

On a really off note, I have no problem with Can spreading the ball around. That's arguably when he is at his best. I just want him to consistently go through his progressions.

This.

2015 was an exhibition for what Cam can do when he has to go thru his progressions.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

I am not counting that "drop" against Funchess. It was not in the best location, making it questionable as to whether he really could have caught it. Funchess is more steadfast than you want to give him credit for. It's Smith whose hands are becoming an issue (at least in my opinion).

I like what I'm seeing of Thomas also. I want to see him more involved as a legitimate weapon. He looks like he may turn out to be a better blocker than 88.

Every coach out there will tell a receiver that if he can get two hands on the ball it should be caught. The pass was a little high and slightly behind, but it was a very catchable ball.