4 the draft guys: mid- tier draft: QB with some talent

[Jmac]

Give me some names.. .good prospects with upside

[SOJA]

This QB class kinda sucks from everything I've read. Now that doesn't mean there won't be one or two decent to good guys, but I'm hesitant to spend a draft pick on a QB in a bad class when we have SO many other needs. 

Lack of young talent has really hurt this team this year imo. Not that Rivera would have played the young talent anyways. 

Off the top of my head these are absolute needs this offseason in no order: DE x 2, NT (esp. if/when Poe gets cut), LT, LG, C, Nickel Back, FS, SS (if Reid isn't re-signed), LB (esp if Davis is gone and we don't re-sign Shaq). That's a TON of needs. 

Realistically our draft could go:

1-DE

2-DT

3-FS

3-DE

4-NB

5,6,7 BPA

In this scenario we go defense super heavy and would have to address o-line in FA. 

[Jmac]

2 minutes ago, SOJA said:

This QB class kinda sucks from everything I've read. Now that doesn't mean there won't be one or two decent to good guys, but I'm hesitant to spend a draft pick on a QB in a bad class when we have SO many other needs. 

Lack of young talent has really hurt this team this year imo. Not that Rivera would have played the young talent anyways. 

Off the top of my head these are absolute needs this offseason in no order: DE x 2, NT (esp. if/when Poe gets cut), LT, LG, C, Nickel Back, FS, SS (if Reid isn't re-signed), LB (esp if Davis is gone and we don't re-sign Shaq). That's a TON of needs. 

Realistically our draft could go:

1-DE

2-DT

3-FS

3-DE

4-NB

5,6,7 BPA

In this scenario we go defense super heavy and would have to address o-line in FA. 

Does fix some major problems...so what do they do at QB if Cam is down for a while? 

[SOJA]

1 minute ago, Jmac said:

Does fix some major problems...so what do they do at QB if Cam is down for a while? 

If Cam is out we are fuged anyways imo. This team desperately needs talent all over the place. A huge core group that has carried us for years is old/washed up/about to retire. It wouldn't matter if we drafted Russel Wilson in the third round 

Again that's just my opinion - if we do draft a QB I'll be on board but I think we have more pressing needs 

[Tbe]

I think this should be the plan:

If Cam ends up sitting next year, we tank the season and get a QB in the top 5. 

If Cam then comes back healthy and ready for another 5 years, we trade our new QB to get our 1st round pick back. If Cam isn’t better, we have a replacement. 

Either way, we use this draft to get DL and OL help so a new QB has the tools around him to succeed if I comes to that.

[Mr. Scot]

45 minutes ago, Tbe said:

I think this should be the plan:

If Cam ends up sitting next year, we tank the season and get a QB in the top 5. 

If Cam then comes back healthy and ready for another 5 years, we trade our new QB to get our 1st round pick back. If Cam isn’t better, we have a replacement. 

Either way, we use this draft to get DL and OL help so a new QB has the tools around him to succeed if I comes to that.

You can't tell 60 other guys - some of whom will see this as their final shot, others of room will have this be their only shot - to tank the season just because one guy can't play (even if that guy is your starting quarterback).

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Jmac said:

Does fix some major problems...so what do they do at QB if Cam is down for a while? 

We are probably better off signing a journeyman QB if Cam is out next year. It is highly unlikely we will get much out of a QB in this draft. Especially as a rookie. 

[BrianS]

A lot of folks have been saying Bridgewater recently, and honestly it's not a terrible idea if he'll come at the right price.  He should be willing, given he's thrown exactly three passes since 2015 ended.

[WhoaaaCAM]

A guy I like late round is Lamar Raynard out of NC A&T, proven winner who could turn out to be a decent project QB

[NanuqoftheNorth]

19 minutes ago, BrianS said:

A lot of folks have been saying Bridgewater recently, and honestly it's not a terrible idea if he'll come at the right price.  He should be willing, given he's thrown exactly three passes since 2015 ended.

We'd be fortunate to get him, even if only on a one year deal.  It would give Bridgewater a chance to showcase his talents and secure a long term deal (not necessarily with the Panthers) if things work out.

It would also give the organization an additional year to assess Cam's health status, allowing the Panthers to make an informed decision as to whether to stay the course or move in another direction.

[MillionDollarCam]

It’s not an option right now but if Kyler Murray reworks his contract with the Athletics (I believe there is a clause that prohibits him from entering the NFL draft but I could be wrong) then he could potentially enter the NFL draft. At that point we could spend a 6th round pick on him or so and hold his rights during spring baseball. If he realizes at that point he doesn’t want to play baseball he can sign with us. He would be the Panthers property for one year and if he remains unsigned he would just enter the draft pool again. Many scouts believe this will happen.

I do also like Will Grier and think the positivity of his accuracy far outweighs the negatives of his arm strength. I’d spend a fourth on him but I don’t see him falling out of the second.

I also like Gardner Minshew as a late round prospect. He seems to be more of a back up type player but I like how hard he works. 

[bobsfoodbasics]

Kaep

[Randolph Panther]

I am a Pack homer but let’s see if Finley drops to the third round and get him. 

If we had to sign someone I would love to get bridgewater. If Newton was in a situation where he had to sit next year I think his days with us would be over. I can’t imagine him getting a huge contract in 2020

[Growl]

there is zero upside to wasting a pick on "a mid tier guy with some talent."

 

You either need your next QB or you don't. You face that decision, make it, and act accordingly.