can you imagine losing 7 in a row and not feel the need to make any changes

[RenoCarolina]

2 minutes ago, je1005 said:

The Saints were pretty terrible in terms of personnel management after their 2009 run. Credit them for turning the corner since the end of 2016. 

Exactly. And their drafting has been remarkable.   But on a similar note I still don't have a lot of faith that every team follows the cap rules in a black & white manner  (nonTBreference ).  When I see the aints get out of cap hell in less than a season and a half, when I see Brady playing for $15M / year i think any financial investigator worth their salt could find multiple teams with significant financial cheating against the cap.

[Mr. Scot]

27 minutes ago, je1005 said:

Saints remodeled their OL and backfield through some superb drafting. They have arguably the two best pass blocking tackles in the league. 

Carolina has one running back (who doubles as a slot receiver) behind a terrible LT and mediocre line. 

Well, and even the improved drafting was due to an internal move. Specifically, hiring Jeff Ireland as a draft consultant.

They can at least say they didn't just bring back the same people and expect a different result.

[Kevin Greene]

17 minutes ago, je1005 said:

The Saints were pretty terrible in terms of personnel management after their 2009 run. Credit them for turning the corner since the end of 2016. 

• New Orleans Saints (2015–present)
  Assistant GM & college scouting director, Jeff Ireland

[ellis]

Jeff Ireland didn’t light the world up in Miami, but in more of a micro-role I agree he’s done a fine job. 

Carolina is still behind on this front. At least Marty Hurney (after all these years) isn’t still running the front office.

Wait. I forgot. He is. 

 

 

[TN05]

Panthers lost seven in a row in 2002, two of them being humiliating blowouts to a division rival. Different circumstances, of course, but still.

[ellis]

Just now, TN05 said:

Panthers lost seven in a row in 2002, two of them being humiliating blowouts to a division rival. Different circumstances, of course, but still.

Common denominator:

[ellis]

Marty’s been here for all of the losing streaks. 

[rmoneyg35]

To be fair almost every loss except maybe one or two was by a touchdown or less.

 

cam was hurt in every game in the loosing streak. He was hurt bad enough to be the cause of every loss. When your QB is hurt so bad he can’t throw then it falls on the QB.

 

this is the logic the front office is probably using.

 

The panthers could easily have been a 10-12 game winner if Cam was healthy.

 

so why make that many changes?

[GoPanthers123]

Ron was this close to losing his job, I believe it because he was freaking out during the pressers.   Vegas had Ron "most likely to be fired" at some point too.    It tells you that Ron is on the hot seat right now and his future here is anyone's guess.

 

For the record Washington as DC screwed us and so did Cam's injury, but Ron shares some of the blame too.

[Moo Daeng]

Can you imagine the same obvious comment repeated forever? You are preaching to the choir. We get it. What are you expecting to happen?

[RoaringRiot]

7 hours ago, Pissed-Off-Carolina-Chuck said:

What have we done the last two years

Last year we won 11 games. 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Granted it was under different ownership but this regime did throw a lot of money at the core of a 2-14 team once.

[KillerKat]

We always make decisions too late. This is what will happen: We start out terrible with a losing record and Rivera gets canned a little before the midway point leaving us with no options and chalking up the lame duck season to a loss when all the fans and every other analyst knew midway through the 2018 season that he should've been canned. fug Tepper.

[RoaringRiot]

3 minutes ago, Pissed-Off-Carolina-Chuck said:

Year before that?

6-10. And the year before that 15-1.