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OBJ to the Texans?

mc52beast

By mc52beast,
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Facts are these, DG wasn't as good at drafting as we wanted but he did a darn good job fielding a team with some lower end FAs that really helped our team get in the playoffs. 

Hurney has made some really good picks with the 1st round but struggled filling in the rest of the team and handled contracts poorly. 

DG was sometimes too unsentimental to his detriment like with Norman, even though his price tag now seems like DG was right. 

Hurney is too loyal. Imagine how much better we would be this year and beyond if we didn't give Olsen & TD the extension. Also, if we would have cut R. Kalil we would have saved a ton of money and had some carry over in this year. 

Combined DG & Hurney would have been a really good GM. 

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10 hours ago, Icege said:

Not including the 2017 season since that was Gettleman + Hurney.

Gettleman:
40W 23L 1T (.625)
x1 NFC Championship
x3 NFC South titles
x4 playoff appearances
x4 seasons (2013, 2014, 2015, 2016)

Hurney:
93W 99L (.484)
x1 NFC Championship
x2 NFC South titles
x3 playoff appearances
x12 seasons as Panthers' GM (2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2018)


If we look include Hurney's time as Director of Player Operations in 1998, then the record is 97W 111L (.466). Can we please stop this ridiculous narrative that he  is/was a better GM?

Hurney is a absolutely terrible GM and at some point Tepper will figure that out.

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2 hours ago, Snake said:

So making the playoffs isn't your bar for a good GM?

He had very little to do with the team's overall success and was a huge reason why we never won another playoff game after 2015. Gettleman single-handedly destroyed the 15-1 panthers in two offseasons and was then fired. Hurney would have had back to back playoff appearances and who knows how far we would have gone if Cam would have stayed healthy. Does that also make him a good GM?

Gettleman was great at finding un-drafted free agents and didn't carry emotional ties to players past their prime. Hurney on the other hand is the polar opposite of that but has a better draft record. Like I said, both are below average gms.

Dave can't win poo in NY even with some solid talent on both sides of the ball because Eli manning is washed up. He wouldn't have won a damn thing in Carolina either if it wasn't for Cam Newton.

 

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