Week 17 of last season...

[Mr. Scot]

...is getting talked about a lot right now.

So let's talk about it.

Pissed that we won? Tanking is for losers? Should have gone for the better draft pick? Wouldn't change a thing? What?

Where do you stand and why?

[Cam's New Arm]

We undoubtedly pissed away a generational talent over nothing. Not to say both teams weren't trying to not win the game. We just got beat at losing. 

[DFive]

You play to win the game....

 

Until you're out of it and have nothing left to play for, then you play to win the draft!

[MillionDollarCam]

Funny enough the Hornets are soon going to find themselves in the same position as the Panthers.

Regardless, the story is always going to be the same. Competitors like to compete and Kyle Allen was going to play to win regardless of what we as a fanbase wanted.

[Palmetto]

Man if the guy the Panthers draft at 16 isn't a HOFer

we"ll have to hear about week 17 2018 every day

[Shocker]

I am glad we beat those bassturds on their field...and maybe had a small part in derailing their magical run the to Super Bowl.  Plus, it’s over now so no need crying about it.

[Mr. Scot]

I know a lot of the discussion right now centers around who will be available versus who could have been available if we had the higher pick.

Who are some of the guys you're hoping for but aren't counting on?

Who are some of the realistic possibilities?

[KillerKat]

In the end all we did was drop 8 spots. We should've tanked. But that's the epitome of the Rivera era. Win when it doesn't matter.

[OldNorthPowell]

Should have played Graham Gano at LT and CAP at QB. You do not win a meaningless game like that and slide 8 picks back out of the top 10. Smh. It is what it is though. 

[LinvilleGorge]

13 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

In the end all we did was drop 8 spots. 

In every single round. The cumulative value is roughly an early 2nd round pick. That's what we cost ourselves by winning a completely meaningless game.

Yeah, I'm pissed about it but whatever. What's done is done.

[Moo Daeng]

27 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Funny enough the Hornets are soon going to find themselves in the same position as the Panthers.

Regardless, the story is always going to be the same. Competitors like to compete and Kyle Allen was going to play to win regardless of what we as a fanbase wanted.

This. Other than resting key starters, which we did, I'm not sure what else you do to lose. Throw intentional interceptions? Fumble on purpose? Try not to tackle?

 

 

I'm honestly curious what you tell someone like Kyle Allen to do in this situation. Don't try? Not a single one of you would tell these players in person to lose.

[rayzor]

only reason we won that game is because the saints didn't try or care.

we should play to win every game and we probably would a lot more if that was the most important thing to rivera and he did whatever was necessary to win. 

[Mr. Scot]

22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

In every single round. The cumulative value is roughly an early 2nd round pick. That's what we cost ourselves by winning a completely meaningless game.

Yeah, I'm pissed about it but whatever. What's done is done.

Not completely done.

Who will be available, and who won't be, when we pick will be a direct result of our final record, and that game.

So until the draft is actually completed and we see the results, it's not quite over.

[MillionDollarCam]

18 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I know a lot of the discussion right now centers around who will be available versus who could have been available if we had the higher pick.

Who are some of the guys you're hoping for but aren't counting on?

Who are some of the realistic possibilities?

I believe the highest we could have picked is 7th, if Quinnen Williams is sitting there at 7 I'll be pretty bummed.

As for our pick, I'd be happy with adding Greedy Williams to our defensive back room as you can't go wrong with an LSU DB and I also wouldn't be opposed to Devin White if the Panthers are truly intent on going to more 3-4 looks (they would also have to be satisfied with White's ability to play OLB in a 4-3 scheme as well). 

And I may be in the minority but I like Clelin Ferrell over Sweat even if both are there. Ferrell already has Everson Griffinesque ball get off skills he just needs to work on his technique. Ferrell is also already doing it at 260, I'm worried what an additional 15 to 20 pounds will do to Sweat.