Steve Beurlein blasts Luck for retiring

[Zaximus]

Let's be real, the Colts should have had backup plans anyway because he's been hurt for years.    It's not like a fully healthy QB just decided to up and retire.    

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

Beurlein hates Cam and Luck. fug him

[Devil Doc]

6 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Been on the colts forum reading replies. It’s pretty fuvking crazy but one thing that caught my attention. A bunch of posters there are really worried about his mental health. Said that this is more than just injuries and that Andrew suffers from depression as an aside from football and that the cycle of injury pain rehab for 4 years sunk him even lower then normal. Just something to think about. We don’t know these people and we barely know what they go through on a day to day basis. Compassion and empathy is the best course of action. If you saw him at his presser he looked exhausted. This has not been fun for him. 

Honestly, it looked like depression that can lead to dependency. I think in his high stressed environment, it is easy to go a substance to help you cope and ease pain. Yes, I know he is tested, but that does not stop ever urge.

[Varking]

I mean when its your time to go its your time to go. He notified the team a couple weeks ago but has pondered this decision for a while. It sounds like a guy who tried to "man up" and just play this season and felt like he just couldn't commit to the effort required to be elite for another season. If Cam's heart wasn't in playing another season do you want to force him out there and be unhappy and be a different Cam than what we normally expect from him? How do the coaches demand that the other players commit to this team when they know the QB is just doing this to do it, and not because he wants to do it anymore? It would have a terrible trickle down effect on all the players. Its better to walk away now than at halftime during a game. 

[steven8989]

This thread!

[CatTower]

This is a short sighted analysis by beurlein.  He is assuming that Luck only retired because he got injured again.  He could have a whole slew of other reasons for retiring that go beyond a lower leg injury that are his right to keep private.  Some players retire after 1 year, nobody says anything, but because Luck was taken with such a high pick, all these guys are up in arms.  They can't fathom how someone could not want to play professional football anymore.

[TheRumGone]

11 minutes ago, Devil Doc said:

Honestly, it looked like depression that can lead to dependency. I think in his high stressed environment, it is easy to go a substance to help you cope and ease pain. Yes, I know he is tested, but that does not stop ever urge.

He no doubt is reliant on pain killers at this point. Chris Carter mentioned that as probably an underlying factor for his retirement.

[pantherclaw]

1 hour ago, Toomers said:

  SSDD. Always the team first....right?????

 Maybe you should have played long enough to know what the person might be going through? Or are you just guessing and bashing as someone who never played football at any level. Because that much is fairly obvious. 

  Just to be clear, you think the team comes before any players health? Is that the prevailing opinion now. A team with fans that lose their minds every time a player leaves, for any reason, is now chastising another player for doing what HE feels is best for him and his family. 

As always. Team first....Logic last. 

I love the assumptions you make, and it still doesn't do ANYTHING to prove your point. 

The NFL is  brutal sport. I laugh at the idiots whom call players injury prone. 

My point is there is a way of handling things, and Luck did not handle this as a professional at all.

If he didn't want to suffer another injury and the prevailing rehab, which is entirely his choice, that I have no problems with, then he should have retired before the draft. Not 2 weeks before the season.

Agree, disagree, I don't care. But go ahead and make more assumptions you know nothing of. 

 

[TheRumGone]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

I love the assumptions you make, and it still doesn't do ANYTHING to prove your point. 

The NFL is  brutal sport. I laugh at the idiots whom call players injury prone. 

My point is there is a way of handling things, and Luck did not handle this as a professional at all.

If he didn't want to suffer another injury and the prevailing rehab, which is entirely his choice, that I have no problems with, then he should have retired before the draft. Not 2 weeks before the season.

Agree, disagree, I don't care. But go ahead and make more assumptions you know nothing of. 

 

The thing is, and luck mentioned this in the interview, he was waiting to see if this new injury would go away. It didn’t. It was pain management and he made a promise to himself that he wouldn’t go through a season in pain like he did in 2016. I understand people being upset this was two weeks until the season, especially Colts fans but to question this guys “manhood” is ridiculous. He’s proven he’s tough. He’s proven he gave his all to rehab. His teammates and the colts org prove this with what they’ve been saying/tweeting. 

[NAS]

Yeah, I don't think anyone can criticize the man's toughness or decision to retire early, only the timing of this decision.  I thought it made sense that Luck may have been able to wait until he was officially on IR and out for the season before retiring.  

[RenoCarolina]

Not a Colts fan, but if Cam announced in March, April, May, even June, that his body and spirit just could not handle it anymore than I would be the first person in line at his retirement parade.  

But if Cam announced his retirement in late August I would be pissed just like those Colt fans.  Andrew Luck pocketed his salary and has responsibilities as a result to his team, city, owner and fans.  Not sure what it is about Andrew that compels so many to fall all over themselves making excuses for his interceptions and performances and now this blindside announcement but he should bottle it.  

The answer as SB stated is just go on IR again.  See if your mind/body heals during the season, be with your teammates and help where you can and then your franchise can go about process of replacing you or welcoming you back next year.

 

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

I love the assumptions you make, and it still doesn't do ANYTHING to prove your point. 

The NFL is  brutal sport. I laugh at the idiots whom call players injury prone. 

My point is there is a way of handling things, and Luck did not handle this as a professional at all.

If he didn't want to suffer another injury and the prevailing rehab, which is entirely his choice, that I have no problems with, then he should have retired before the draft. Not 2 weeks before the season.

Agree, disagree, I don't care. But go ahead and make more assumptions you know nothing of. 

 

  So if he was planning on playing this season, he should have quit in March? What mind of sense does that make. We have no idea what information and level of pain was available to him in March, as opposed to now. And if he couldn’t play anyhow, how did he screw them. You(or I or any of us) have no idea what transpired between the team and Luck. They aren’t too upset to let him keep his bonus money. 

   MY POINT is  people making assumptions without even close to all the relevant context. I’m assuming it’s his body, his decisions. You’re assuming he quit while being ready to play week 1.

  

[Khyber53]

Walk a mile in the other guy's cleats...

It's his life, and in the end, it's just a game and millions of dollars. I think he came to the conclusion that those millions weren't necessarily going to be there if he injured himself further and couldn't play. And if that injury was something that would bother or hinder him for the rest of his life... well, the NFL really doesn't pay anyone for that, does it?

In the end, people are asking where's his loyalty to the team? The counter is that every team eventually tells a player, you aren't going to work here anymore, you've gotten to hurt, old, slow, troublesome and/or expensive. I can't blame a guy for looking at his employer and saying the same back to them ahead of schedule. 

Good luck to him and I hope he heals up, enjoys himself and goes on to better things. And we, as fans, have to quit looking at this as some kind of tragedy or travesty. Luck's a multi-millionaire who worked for a multi-billionaire. Let's spend our tears on that brickmason who has to hang it up because he can't stoop down and pick up another brick, or that mill worker whose job disappeared but the brown lung disease lingers on.

Football's just a game.

[Toomers]

Just now, RenoCarolina said:

Not a Colts fan, but if Cam announced in March, April, May, even June, that his body and spirit just could not handle it anymore than I would be the first person in line at his retirement parade.  

But if Cam announced his retirement in late August I would be pissed just like those Colt fans.  Andrew Luck pocketed his salary and has responsibilities as a result to his team, city, owner and fans.  Not sure what it is about Andrew that compels so many to fall all over themselves making excuses for his interceptions and performances and now this blindside announcement but he should bottle it.  

The answer as SB stated is just go on IR again.  See if your mind/body heals during the season, be with your teammates and help where you can and then your franchise can go about process of replacing you or welcoming you back next year.

 

Luck could have went on IR and collected 9+M more from them. Then quit when it didn’t get better. Facts are fun.