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Why won't we help the tackles?


Mr. Scot

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An excerpt from Joe Person's latest article in The Athletic...

"Williams wasn’t given much help, either. While McCaffrey chipped Barrett a couple of times, the Panthers never used a tight end to double-team Barrett, according to No. 2 tight end Chris Manhertz. On a fourth-and-1 near midfield in the fourth quarter, Williams blocked down and McCaffrey helped on the other edge, allowing Barrett to come free and force a Newton incompletion. That can’t happen."

If you think back to Super Bowl 50, this might sound familiar. One difference of course, is that Mike Shula ran the offense back then. It's Norv Turner now, but the results are the same.

It's a fairly simple adjustment to make, even easier when you've got a good blocking right end (which is reportedly why Manhertz is second on the depth chart). Heck, we see other teams do it all the time.

So why don't we do it?

Why do we seem to be so reluctant to help our tackles when they're getting beaten?

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26 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Better to leave them on an island and then blame them for missed opportunities.

Good coaches can field a great team when all the pieces come together to make their schemes work. Great coaches tailor their schemes to fit their personnel.

This is Ron's greatest betrayal.

When he was first signed, I won't forget this, he stated that he was going to plan based on the talent he had rather than trying to force square pegs into round holes to fit his system.

The lies he told. :(

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39 minutes ago, Panthera onca said:

We seem to have a set game plan and are reluctant to deviate from or make adjustments to that plan as the game unfolds. It's mind boggling.

ARRRGGH!  It is just so frustrating to see that the coaches still haven't learned to make adjustments.  They are the professionals and should know better by now.  Especially Coach Rivera, since he is ultimately responsible.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I mean, you can't tell me nobody on the coaching staff sees what's happening out there.

How do you sit back and watch that and not try to do something? Anything!

I think that's why people feel the season is done after 2 games. Not because we lack talent but because we lack good coaching. 

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I mean, you can't tell me nobody on the coaching staff sees what's happening out there.

How do you sit back and watch that and not try to do something? Anything!

I agree with you man. I was watching the games with friends and we were pointing that out. If a bunch of buzzed fans can point that out, you would think the coaches would too and make an adjustment 

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24 minutes ago, Icege said:

This is Ron's greatest betrayal.

When he was first signed, I won't forget this, he stated that he was going to plan based on the talent he had rather than trying to force square pegs into round holes to fit his system.

The lies he told. :(

Boy, do I remember that introductory press conference. Rivera made such a great first impression.

I remember one of the local radio shows talking to Brooklyn Decker afterward. She said after watching that, she was afraid of him.

Doesn't really seem like anybody's afraid of him anymore.

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if we helped the tackles cam wouldn't get plastered 3-8 times a game, and think of how many less hits he would take.  now do you see why your 'great idea' is really stupid.   honestly i think rivera puts hits on qb's in the spank bank, even if its his qb.   

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44 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I mean, you can't tell me nobody on the coaching staff sees what's happening out there.

How do you sit back and watch that and not try to do something? Anything!

I lost all faith in the coaches last game.  We have the only qb in the nfl who can power, we need 12 inches and we motion him out and run a gimmick play with our running back who if he has a real flaw it's that hes smallish and struggles running over tacklers.

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I chalk it up to a tug-of-war of resources - guys can only fill so many roles on any given play. Using a player for double duty to help shore up/provide a crutch for weak area on certain plays may increase success for one-off plays but isn't sustainable when you need guys in tight situations laser focused on one task. Eventually coaching (or GM) should make your weak links stronger, but guess neither of those have paid off...

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