Derek Anderson , Damian Lewis talks about Cam

[OneBadCat]

Ron’s best years as a coach was in 2013-15. He played with house money back then because he had nothing to lose. Now he thinks he knows best because he lost a Super Bowl a few years ago and thinks he can skate on that.

[AceBoogie]

I’m starting to think we should have sat Cam maybe the first two games of the season. Hell we lost them anyway and he might be fully healed by now. 

[Darvinsun]

I'm saying this. We may win with another QB, but when CAM retires from football I will be retiring as a fan. I can not continue to watch a sport that set out to derail a guy just because he would not conform. NFL has become a one-sided business. Nflpa is a joke. NFL is just rigged all the way around. Play by their rules or get taken out with conclusions and random supposedly drug test that by the way always pick you out of hundreds of others. Yea right!

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

I’m starting to think we should have sat Cam maybe the first two games of the season. Hell we lost them anyway and he might be fully healed by now. 

Newton should have been sitting a lot earlier last season than he did.

Why that didn't happen last year is the same reason he didn't sit to start this season.

[Cdw]

Did they have any insight/opinion on whether or not Cam is truly focused on the game or loves football anymore?

[thefuzz]

2 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

I’m starting to think we should have sat Cam maybe the first two games of the season. Hell we lost them anyway and he might be fully healed by now. 

Unfortunately, I do not believe this to be the case.

Once again, you are hearing what you want to hear, not what you are seeing with your own two eyes.

Cam's foot and ankle are banged up....but the shoulder is as well...and I don't see that magically "healing"...just like it hasn't done in a couple of years.

The ankle is the icing, but the cake is the shoulder.  Unless Cam chooses to take a LONG break from the NFL and work on that shoulder and his mechanics, I don't think that you will ever see that player again.

I have been saying for over 2 seasons now....we need to see the long ball, we need for Cam to not be limited, we need to see him make it through a full season and offseason without surgery or hearing the terms "new normal" and "pitch count", but alas, here we are.  Got called a lot of names for questioning that shoulder around here, and saw a lot of posters with their fingers in their ears, or their head in the sand.

[thefuzz]

10 minutes ago, Cdw said:

Did they have any insight/opinion on whether or not Cam is truly focused on the game or loves football anymore?

It's pretty damn easy to see if you look.

We aren't winning, Cam likes to win.

We can't surround him with a competent O Line.

He is hurt and cannot do the things that set him apart and make him great.

He is 30 now.  With age comes a fair amount of wisdom.

He is wealthy, and a family man now.  With children comes a different outlook on life.

 

Unless you are having the time of your life, football as you get older just isn't nearly as enjoyable, especially if pain is here knocking you in the brain all day long.

I don't blame him at all, were I in his shoes, I would have already had my agent prepare my paperwork for this offseason.

[TheSpecialJuan]

GOOD STUFF 

[raz]

hey mr scot, our record has also gone down with cam's loss of ability.  i get your point about marty but in this case i think its a confounding variable.  i think the real cause is cam's injuries.  to me - a lot of that is on rivera and both gm's for not getting us the best line in football. its always been an after thought.  'skill' players become superstars because of offensive lines.  fire everyone but chase 'passion' blackburn

[falconidae]

8 hours ago, Montsta said:

If Cam can’t play properly until mid season then we will be 1-7 and there will no longer be a need to play him at all but nope Ronnie The Destroyer of talent will march him out there in a bid to save his own ass and fug him up for 2020 and beyond. 

I hope in that case that Tepper steps in and forces Rivera not to play him.  If that happens, the only hope for a good 2020 for Cam is to let him rest and rehab. That also makes sense if you want to trade Cam. 

 

As a Falcons fan, I'm OK with the panthers not being a factor in the NFCS this year. As a fellow football fan, I feel for the real fans here, looks like you guys have a real mess here and  I don't see it turning around this year. 

[ickmule]

What would you expect these guys to say? Take noting away from their comments.  

[steven8989]

1 hour ago, falconidae said:

I hope in that case that Tepper steps in and forces Rivera not to play him.  If that happens, the only hope for a good 2020 for Cam is to let him rest and rehab. That also makes sense if you want to trade Cam. 

 

As a Falcons fan, I'm OK with the panthers not being a factor in the NFCS this year. As a fellow football fan, I feel for the real fans here, looks like you guys have a real mess here and  I don't see it turning around this year. 

[ickmule]

4 hours ago, thefuzz said:

Unfortunately, I do not believe this to be the case.

Once again, you are hearing what you want to hear, not what you are seeing with your own two eyes.

Cam's foot and ankle are banged up....but the shoulder is as well...and I don't see that magically "healing"...just like it hasn't done in a couple of years.

The ankle is the icing, but the cake is the shoulder.  Unless Cam chooses to take a LONG break from the NFL and work on that shoulder and his mechanics, I don't think that you will ever see that player again.

I have been saying for over 2 seasons now....we need to see the long ball, we need for Cam to not be limited, we need to see him make it through a full season and offseason without surgery or hearing the terms "new normal" and "pitch count", but alas, here we are.  Got called a lot of names for questioning that shoulder around here, and saw a lot of posters with their fingers in their ears, or their head in the sand.

Yep, I said 2 years ago when the shoulder became an issue that he would never be the same and likely not even close. I’ve known a dozen or so everyday people have shoulder issues and they never returned to the old self.  Cam is not your everyday guy, he’s a professional QB expected to perform at a high level.  I really think his shoulder is shot and he’s realizing it and that is the reason for his depression.  

[poorboysrev]

12 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Definitely hope Newton heals quicker than that. By midseason, we could potentially be in a really bad spot.

Agree with moving Darryl Williams, but not replacing him with Greg Little. 

I agree...Moton. I don’t even see why it’s a hard choice. Daryl Williamscan play Right Tackle or Little can learn there if he can’t ...one move and boom instantly better