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Peter King on Carolina's pass protection (or lack of)


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9 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Guys, it won't matter where you put him on the line.  Defenses will just flip the best rusher to his side.  This group is all kinds of fuged if they haven't figured out what the best combination is on which side.   The entire left side of the line including center is completely out of sink and over matched.  This will not get fixed quickly, especially with who is in charge of fixing it.

Absolutely will matter. The left side is the quarterbacks blindside. If he gets beat to the right then at least qb has the ability to see it coming and possibly buy time.

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8 hours ago, ncfan said:

Scary to say

 

Gettleman took a Lot of heat and deservingly so

 

But in 4 year he gave Cam and Ron.  Norwell (All-Pro), Trai Turner, Oher (solid before concussions) , drafted Moton, drafted Williams

 

In 2 years Hurney has, given us Van roten, Big deal to Paradis, drafted Greg Little (who he apparently considered at 16 if Burns wasnt there)

There's the small issue of Matt Kalil, and Vernon Butler...

Also laughably unsuccessfully trying to replace Ted Ginn not once but twice, the first time with Tiquan Underwood, and the second time with Sterling Shepard.

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5 hours ago, ImaginaryKev said:

It was never fair to Williams to switch him to LT coming off that knee injury to begin with. Never understood that, he's a right tackle. 

 I wonder if he re-signed with us because he was promised first shot at LT. Even though he's terrible there, if he is cast as an LT he will make more money than an RT next year in FA. After they handled his injury horribly last year maybe RR and MH felt they owed it to him. It's infuriating because most people here could see he was not suited to LT but had a good track record at RT. The answer (Moton) is right there but they refuse to acknowledge it. You just know that Little will be the next man up.

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14 hours ago, Waldo said:

Ron already said something about giving William's help. Considering what I just rewatched, I'm not sure that's going to be enough. That last play where the guy with 3 sacks didn't have anyone attempt top block him was a lot to take in. 

All of this video was just Barrett's 4 sacks vs. Williams. He also had a lot of pressures that affected Cam's passes. Not to mention that Van Rotton, Paradis and Turner also gave up a lot of pressure.

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4 minutes ago, shaqattaq said:

All of this video was just Barrett's 4 sacks vs. Williams. He also had a lot of pressures that affected Cam's passes. Not to mention that Van Rotton, Paradis and Turner also gave up a lot of pressure.

Yup. The Oline's ceiling appears to be a lot lower than many assumed in the offseason. Yes its week 3 now and gelling but this has been a disaster and extra help doesn't address the level of dysfunction we have see with this unit.

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14 minutes ago, Pimpdaddy said:

you would think so....Brady doesnt even have to wash his uniform for the next game...

There's a parallel universe where Cam is playing on the Patriots with that OL, receivers, and Belicheck. I'm just jealous I don't live there.

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2 hours ago, Pimpdaddy said:

you would think so....Brady doesnt even have to wash his uniform for the next game...

The Patriots are a step ahead of everyone in that they actually devalue the offensive line more than other teams.  They have a QB and a system that allows them to place less importance on the offensive line while also neutralizing the importance of their opposition's defensive line which is where a lot of teams spend a large percentage of their resources.

While other teams are desperate for offensive line help they are trading players like Logan Mankins or letting their LT (Solder) walk in free agency.

Offensive line is a combination of factors:

Talent (GM and coach)

Teaching (position coach)

System (HC and OC)

QB (Cam)

For the average fan its easy to blame just the talent aspect, but I have a feeling its probably more of a combination of all 4 factors.  Also most fans are a bit unrealistic of offensive line play.  Everyone thinks their offensive line is the worst in the league.  I'm not saying we can't improve, but over the past 4-5 years we are probably closer to middle of the pack than most think.

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