Kyle Allen can’t become a franchise QB? Think again..

[Dragoon11]

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

I agree on Cam, but it isn't just CMC.  Allen is extending drives, converting 1st downs... On our 90 yard TD drive in the 2nd quarter CMC had 3 carries for 7 yards and a reception for 3.  Allen was 7/7 that drive.

Allen also looked very sharp on that 99 yard drive against Tampa Bay in London. These are small but significant examples, significant in the fact that 90+ TD drives where it wasn't your running game that did most of the work shows about as much "clutch" as it gets. Poor QB's rarely have those types of drives, Allen is starting to do it more and more. Sure he still has a way to go obviously to be crowned anything... But how can anyone NOT see the signs and week to week improvements?

[ecu88]

This thread got me like

[Rags]

3 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

He can’t make all the nfl throws

 

2 hours ago, mjligon said:

This x1000

until he actually hits a receiver in stride over 40 yards through the air this conversation is pointless

 

Very few QBs can.

Big arm =/= all the nfl throws.

Allen has shown he can make throws in the NFL, and has had a few throws that many QBs drafted ahead of him *can't* make.

He's also shown he can't make throws other quarterbacks can make. It's a definite flaw.

That said he has shown he is more than capable QB in the league. This whole conversation about his ceiling this year (or next, if he happens to keep the job) is completely pointless because we don't have to worry anout his contract til AFTER next season at the earliest. 

It's game fuging 7 of his NFL career. Of course he isn't hitting "all his throws" or "Making all the nfl throws". 

Goddamn Year Two of Cam's carrer (and year 3. And year 4.) We talked about how inconsistent his short accuracy was.

 

[Rags]

1 hour ago, My Goodness My Guinness said:

Okay, see, crap like this thread is why there are trolls pooing on everything Kyle Allen does.

@Snake @PanthersNC1984 @SBiii Y’all are your own worst enemy 

We had a thread comparing Cam's stats to Peyton's after year 1.

Stat comparisons are dumb but trendy.

There are the contarions like snake going OD but even in casual threads there are PLENTY of people who take any bump to Kyle as a slight to Cam.

[bchamp10]

3 hours ago, mjligon said:

This x1000

until he actually hits a receiver in stride over 40 yards through the air this conversation is pointless

Weird bc I cant recall the last time Cam did so..

[Verge]

He is restricted in his NFL type throws the same way Drew Brees is, which isn't exactly a damning statement. The question is if he can maintain a consistent level of production and become the #1 threat in our offense.

[uncfan888]

Good lord Panthersunited and snake are going insane for Kyle 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

At this point we should just become the first football forum to ban QB talk lol. If you mention any QB signed on this roster you should just get a 48 hour ban because at this point it would be more enjoyable to discuss the half time show or cheer routine each week.

[WOW!!]

Who are you trying to convince?? Us or yourself?

[jtm]

8 hours ago, TheRumGone said:

He can’t make all the nfl throws

And Cam can?

[Wolfpack352]

Cam this Kyle that....blah blah blah.  Kyle is starting so let's go Kyle and TEAM!  Keep pounding!

[therealmjl]

42 minutes ago, jtm said:

And Cam can?

 

5 hours ago, bchamp10 said:

Weird bc I cant recall the last time Cam did so..

I understand your selective memory is keeping you from thinking clearly on this subject. 

the answer is yes, Cam Newton has proven time and again when healthy he can make any throw on the football field.

Allen has yet to prove this.

[1of10Charnatives]

6 minutes ago, mjligon said:

 

I understand your selective memory is keeping you from thinking clearly on this subject. 

the answer is yes, Cam Newton has proven time and again when healthy he can make any throw on the football field.

Allen has yet to prove this.

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that bchamp10’s point isn’t that Cam can’t sling it 40 yards down field, but that his generally sub par accuracy over the course of his career has meant he is rarely hitting receivers in stride, setting them up for substantial YAC. IMO this has always been one of the biggest weaknesses in his game. He has the ability to give you some highlight real lasers from time to time yes, but he also has consistently been less accurate than the typical franchise Qb,  requiring more adjustment to the throw in the air by his receivers, dampening their YAC potential.

[jfra78]

Can we not just be happy with winning?  Kyle Allen is who he is.